6th Gen Legacy Wheel Thread

[surmiser]

Thx. ^

 

Surmised - are yours plastidipped or were they done using a different process?

 

 

Mine's not plastidip. Paid a shop to paint them for me, which involved sanding them down (and fixing lots of rash; these were 10-year-old wheels I bought relatively cheap), priming, then layers of gloss paint and clear lacquer, then baking to cure all of it.

[PDREALTOR]

Mine's not plastidip. Paid a shop to paint them for me, which involved sanding them down (and fixing lots of rash; these were 10-year-old wheels I bought relatively cheap), priming, then layers of gloss paint and clear lacquer, then baking to cure all of it.

 

How was the ride, if different at all, with the 25mm spacers?

 

How much did you lower the car?

[surmiser]

How was the ride, if different at all, with the 25mm spacers?

 

How much did you lower the car?

 

When I was on 25mm spacers, the ride wasn't noticeably different in terms of comfort of stiffness, but due to the wider track, the car felt more stable and better-planted on the road. Better composure on turns. I kinda miss it and will try and replicate that handling when I finally get my coilovers, which brings me to...

 

Lowering - I haven't lowered my car yet because my custom Gecko coilovers have been delayed. Supposed to have arrived by last month but I'm probably looking at January. So my car is still at stock height. I aim to lower the rear by 10mm and the front by 20mm. We'll see how that goes and I'll post about it for sure.

[PDREALTOR]

Can't wait to see how it turns out after you lower it. I'm sure it will look excellent!

 

Do you have any pictures with the 25mm spacers? What brand were you using?

[surmiser]

Do you have any pictures with the 25mm spacers? What brand were you using?

 

I had the spacers custom made at a factory here. No brand.

 

Here are the 25mm hubcentric spacers themselves:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/ac5582c6231e6618671f7300e3e434c5.jpg

 

Here's one of them mounted:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/12a41ddf0b8a5bfac808a0906e714824.jpg

 

Here are some pics back when I still had the spacers on all four wheels:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/a4647f6b512647fa9a2831d8e9189116.jpg

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/f492900026545e9e3ebb069c83a9c2b9.jpg

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/313d050ca304d2439c9324868015b528.jpg

 

And here's a pic when I only had the spacers on my front wheels; I removed them from the rears because of rubbing.

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/aeb0422c7bac15b56a51673e24fd18ab.jpg

Edited December 10, 2016 by surmiser

[PDREALTOR]

I had the spacers custom made at a factory here. No brand.

 

Here are the 25mm hubcentric spacers themselves:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/ac5582c6231e6618671f7300e3e434c5.jpg

 

Here's one of them mounted:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/12a41ddf0b8a5bfac808a0906e714824.jpg

 

Here are some pics back when I still had the spacers on all four wheels:

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/a4647f6b512647fa9a2831d8e9189116.jpg

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/f492900026545e9e3ebb069c83a9c2b9.jpg

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/313d050ca304d2439c9324868015b528.jpg

 

And here's a pic when I only had the spacers on my front wheels; I removed them from the rears because of rubbing.

 

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/aeb0422c7bac15b56a51673e24fd18ab.jpg

 

Nice! Thanks for all the info!

 

Do you think 20mm would cause rubbing at stock height? I really like that look, but don't want to rub.

[leumaskrap]

surmiser makin moves! love it

[surmiser]

Do you think 20mm would cause rubbing at stock height? I really like that look, but don't want to rub.

 

 

You might be just within safe territory with 20mm spacers at stock height. Tough call. Just be prepared to have to insert spring stiffener collars in the rear.

 

I suspect that a stiffer rear sway bar might also save you from rear rubbing, because I only got rubbing with the 25mm spacers during aggressive cornering, and my rear sway bar was stock back then. I can't help but wonder if I'd have had better luck with the 22mm rear sway bar I'm now running. Anyway, if your rear sway bar's stock and you plan to upgrade, I suggest doing that first before decreasing wheel inset.

 

FYI, with my current wheels, I'm at the equivalent of 18.6mm spacers, which is definitely safe at stock height, and probably safe when lowered.

[leumaskrap]

You might be just within safe territory with 20mm spacers at stock height. Tough call. Just be prepared to have to insert spring stiffener collars in the rear.

 

I suspect that a stiffer rear sway bar might also save you from rear rubbing, because I only got rubbing with the 25mm spacers during aggressive cornering, and my rear sway bar was stock back then. I can't help but wonder if I'd have had better luck with the 22mm rear sway bar I'm now running. Anyway, if your rear sway bar's stock and you plan to upgrade, I suggest doing that first before decreasing wheel inset.

 

FYI, with my current wheels, I'm at the equivalent of 18.6mm spacers, which is definitely safe at stock height, and probably safe when lowered.

 

 

 

Did you get/order the coilovers you were talking about?

 

 

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[surmiser]

Did you get/order the coilovers you were talking about?

 

 

I ordered them more than two months ago but am still waiting - extremely impatiently. Sigh.

[PDREALTOR]

You might be just within safe territory with 20mm spacers at stock height. Tough call. Just be prepared to have to insert spring stiffener collars in the rear.

 

I suspect that a stiffer rear sway bar might also save you from rear rubbing, because I only got rubbing with the 25mm spacers during aggressive cornering, and my rear sway bar was stock back then. I can't help but wonder if I'd have had better luck with the 22mm rear sway bar I'm now running. Anyway, if your rear sway bar's stock and you plan to upgrade, I suggest doing that first before decreasing wheel inset.

 

FYI, with my current wheels, I'm at the equivalent of 18.6mm spacers, which is definitely safe at stock height, and probably safe when lowered.

 

Thanks for all the great info.... very detailed and helpful!

 

I'm on the stock rear sway and have the 20mm on my floor waiting to be installed.

 

The car looks real good with the additional offset. Given you've posted both the 18.6 mm offset and the 25 mm offset pictures it's plenty to help me make an informed decision. I'm certainly leaning towards 25 at the moment.

[15LegacyRyan]

I am looking to finally get myself a new set of wheels now that my tires are starting to see the end of the road (they have 38k+ miles on them). I am looking to get Enkei Raijin-19 specs 19x8, 40mm offset. And for tires I am looking at Toyo Proxes 4 Plus, 245/40/R19. I checked the speedo calculator and it checks out. Am I missing anything here or should they mount right up without any issues? Depending on how much poke there is, I may look into wheel spacers to give it a more aggressive look.

 

Here are the links:

 

Rims - https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4679806545B&wheelMake=Enkei%20Tuning&wheelModel=Raijin-19&wheelFinish=Black%20Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Subaru&autoModel=Legacy&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=2.5i+Limited

 

Tires - https://www.toyotires.com/tire/pattern/proxes-4-plus-ultra-high-performance-all-season-tires

Edited December 19, 2016 by 15LegacyRyan

[tigger73]

They will fit up fine. The tires are slightly wider than "ideal" for the rims but within "acceptable" range. Ideally you'd put the 245/40R19 tires on a 19 x 8.5" wheel.

 

You may not have room for spacers given that they're pretty close to flush. I'm not a big fan of spacers either. Much better off getting wheels with the correct firment to start with.

[15LegacyRyan]

They will fit up fine. The tires are slightly wider than "ideal" for the rims but within "acceptable" range. Ideally you'd put the 245/40R19 tires on a 19 x 8.5" wheel.

 

You may not have room for spacers given that they're pretty close to flush. I'm not a big fan of spacers either. Much better off getting wheels with the correct firment to start with.

 

 

 

Thanks for the input. The options for the rim are 19x8 40mm offset, 19x8 45mm offset, or 19x8.5 50mm offset. The 40mm offset won't mess up the speedo and that plays a big role in my selection. Will it affect the performance of the tires with them being "slightly wider" than ideal width? I'll go through the options again but if I remember correctly this was the only options in that tire for this rim specs

 

 

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[tigger73]

It's a bit of a toss-up between the 19x8 +40 and 19x8.5 +50.

 

The 19x8 will sit 4mm further out (more flush), however the 19x8.5 is a better fit for the tires.

 

Ideally you'd go for 19x8.5 +45 but I know not every size is available in every offset.

[Grnlantern1]

Yeah my New Rims are 19 x 8.5 +41 So we will see how they sit as well, but Im still using a 225 Width tire.. Should Still tuck when I dump it..Running a 8.5 you should go with a 45 Series tire if possible..[emoji106]

 

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[15LegacyRyan]

It's a bit of a toss-up between the 19x8 +40 and 19x8.5 +50.

 

The 19x8 will sit 4mm further out (more flush), however the 19x8.5 is a better fit for the tires.

 

Ideally you'd go for 19x8.5 +45 but I know not every size is available in every offset.

 

 

 

The issue with the 8.5 +50 is that the speedo will be quite off. Otherwise I would go with that size.

 

 

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[tigger73]

The issue with the 8.5 +50 is that the speedo will be quite off. Otherwise I would go with that size.

 

 

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Speedo relates to the tire size only (rolling diameter/circumference should be within 2% of factory tire). As long as you choose the right profile/width tire you'll be fine

[15LegacyRyan]

Speedo relates to the tire size only (rolling diameter/circumference should be within 2% of factory tire). As long as you choose the right profile/width tire you'll be fine

 

 

 

So if we're on the same page.. would it would work to order a 19x8.5 +50 rim and get a 245/40r19 tire? I don't have a lot of knowledge on tire/rim specs into this much detail so if this is a terrible question my apologies

 

 

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[ammcinnis]

I don't have a lot of knowledge on tire/rim specs into this much detail ...

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. We all started out with zero knowledge on any given subject. Questions are good. It's willingness to learn and understand ... for a lifetime ... that makes the difference.

 

But given the above, you really shouldn't be posting off-the-wall stuff like:

The issue with the 8.5 +50 [wheels] is that the speedo will be quite off.

 

The place to start is to look up the "revs per mile" or "rolling radius" specification for the OE tires (see sources like TireRack.com), then check the same spec for any replacement tire. The difference vs. OE should always be less than 2% ... the lower the better.

Edited December 20, 2016 by ammcinnis

[HarrisonK]

What size front and rear spacers are needed for a 2017 sport with stock wheels to make the wheels sit flush? Will I have any clearance problems?

[surmiser]

So if we're on the same page.. would it would work to order a 19x8.5 +50 rim and get a 245/40r19 tire? I don't have a lot of knowledge on tire/rim specs into this much detail so if this is a terrible question my apologies

 

 

The basic distinction to make is between offset (in this case, +50mm, which only tells you how far out your wheels will be from your wheel hubs), and tire profile (in this case, 40, which tells you how much rubber there is in addition to the diameter of your wheels). Offset won't affect your speedo accuracy, but tire profile can.

 

What size front and rear spacers are needed for a 2017 sport with stock wheels to make the wheels sit flush? Will I have any clearance problems?

 

I'd say 20mm spacers all round should get you near the sweet spot. The rears are where any clearance problems might crop up, but it's hard to say for sure because it also depends on your driving style and whether or not you've upgraded your rear sway bar. The flusher you are in the rear, the more likely you'll rub.

 

One possibility is a staggered offset setup where you run 20mm spacers in front, and 15mm in the rear. You'll definitely have enough clearance all round then.

Edited December 21, 2016 by surmiser

[mwlegltd]

I believe the factory oem GY LS2's are at 777 rpm

[JamesJaikissoon]

So I'm eventually putting 245/45/18 Tires.

 

My question is if it would clear H&R Springs ?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161222/5c0f5717de628868942b50bc53d625b0.jpg

 

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspension.jsp?make=H%26R&model=Sport+Spring+Set&group=Sport+Spring+Set&partNum=54427&autoMake=Subaru&autoModel=Legacy&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=2.5i

 

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[MaDpAnDa0820]

So I'm eventually putting 245/45/18 Tires.

 

My question is if it would clear H&R Springs ?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161222/5c0f5717de628868942b50bc53d625b0.jpg

 

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspension.jsp?make=H%26R&model=Sport+Spring+Set&group=Sport+Spring+Set&partNum=54427&autoMake=Subaru&autoModel=Legacy&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=2.5i

 

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Yes. I have those springs on mines and I am running 245/40R19