DA_MAXX Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I did look at the philips. However, I was not excited with only 200 lm output. I believe I put in a brighter lumen bulb but it's doesn't have the directional beam. So that appears to be factor? andrew_l_s did you replace your license plate lights with LEDs? Edited January 22, 2016 by DA_MAXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali2Colo Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I did look at the philips. However, I was not excited with only 200 lm output. I believe I put in a brighter lumen bulb but it's doesn't have the directional beam. So that appears to be factor? Not 100% sure what bulbs you're referring to, but lumens are not exactly a "standardized" unit of measurement. 200 lumens from company A could be very different than 200 lumens from company B. Usually high end companies like Philips are very conservative in their Lumen readings. So the lower brands may claim higher Lumens than Philips, but in reality Philips are brighter. I'm not sure if this helps at all because I can't really tell what you're talking about, but I figured I would chime in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) ... lumens are not exactly a "standardized" unit of measurement. The Lumen is a precisely standardized measure of luminous energy per unit time. This is not the same thing as luminous intensity or "brightness." 100 Lumens concentrated in a narrow beam is much brighter than 100 Lumens emitted spherically ... i.e. distributed uniformly in all directions. I agree that some lamp manufacturers seem to be much more ethical with their Lumen ratings than others. Edited January 23, 2016 by ammcinnis "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali2Colo Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The Lumen is a precisely standardized measure of luminous energy per unit time. This is not the same thing as luminous intensity or "brightness." 100 Lumens concentrated in a narrow beam is much brighter than 100 Lumens emitted spherically ... i.e. distributed uniformly in all directions. I agree that some lamp manufacturers seem to be much more ethical with their Lumen ratings than others. Notice the quotations around "standardized"? You know exactly what I meant. Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 I did look at the philips. However, I was not excited with only 200 lm output. I believe I put in a brighter lumen bulb but it's doesn't have the directional beam. So that appears to be factor? andrew_l_s did you replace your license plate lights with LEDs? It's not just about output, direction is important too. I have LEDs with backward firing diodes in my front turn signals and rear converted extra backup lights as well, which fill up the reflectors and distribute the light out quite nicely. I have natural white LEDs from superbrightleds.com in my license plate. I highly recommend them if you're looking for high quality stuff. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_MAXX Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 andrew_l_s I'll have to give directional ones a try. My concern with LEDs in the license plate area, is that they wash out the camera in extreme dark conditions. The camera picture is bright white. So I'm thinking of running less output on the license plate area and more from the backup lights. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 andrew_l_s I'll have to give directional ones a try. My concern with LEDs in the license plate area, is that they wash out the camera in extreme dark conditions. The camera picture is bright white. So I'm thinking of running less output on the license plate area and more from the backup lights. Thanks! The camera is aimed away from the lights. Mine are rated at 85 lumens so they're extremely bright for license plate lights, no issues with washed out camera picture. I have these in natural white: https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/miniature-wedge-base/194-can-bus-led-bulb-5-smd-led-tower-miniature-wedge-retrofit-car/1127/ ***Note that our cars do not need canbus compatible ones. It won't hurt using them though, only difference is they have a small load resistor. The canbus ones are cheaper and come in natural white so I went with them. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securityguy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I have had zero issue with my LED license plate bulbs washing out my camera. I also upgraded the rear back up bulbs to ultra high brightness bright white LEDs and I can see fantastic when backing up with my camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieN8 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 LED plate lights are awesome for brightening my camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Philips typically rates their lumens with "effective lumens" whereas a lot of other manufacturers simply use "raw lumens." Basically... Philips gives realistic real-life number of lumens, whereas other manufacturers overrate the output and use theoretical numbers. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) How does the 4300k look when compared to the LED surround on the headlights? Looks like 4300 is the way to go but am looking to match those up as close as possible Also, if I were to go with the LED fogs, is 5k or 6k better in your guy's opinion? Edited January 26, 2016 by h4xit Fogs question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali2Colo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 How does the 4300k look when compared to the LED surround on the headlights? Looks like 4300 is the way to go but am looking to match those up as close as possible Also, if I were to go with the LED fogs, is 5k or 6k better in your guy's opinion? Where do you live? Do you live in a place where snow, rain, and/or fog are common? If so, you want to stay away from higher K ratings. You'll experience too much reflection from the light. With that being said, 5000K should give you the most light output (I think). Steve from XenonDepot can give you much better input. Hopefully he replies soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 h4xit - 4300k is definitely the best in terms of light output, however if you are looking for a "crisper" color without compensating too much functionality the XenonDepot 5000k HID kit is definitely a good option. Several members on this forum have them and are quite satisfied. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Where do you live? Do you live in a place where snow, rain, and/or fog are common? If so, you want to stay away from higher K ratings. You'll experience too much reflection from the light. With that being said, 5000K should give you the most light output (I think). Steve from XenonDepot can give you much better input. Hopefully he replies soon I live in Seattle - rain definitely common . I'll grab the 4300k, thanks for the input h4xit - 4300k is definitely the best in terms of light output, however if you are looking for a "crisper" color without compensating too much functionality the XenonDepot 5000k HID kit is definitely a good option. Several members on this forum have them and are quite satisfied. Steve Sounds great. I'm assuming if I end up needing the 5000k I can always buy and swap out the lamps? Sorry, totally new to headlight mods Edited January 26, 2016 by h4xit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hi, That is correct; it would just be a simple bulb replacement. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hi, That is correct; it would just be a simple bulb replacement. Steve Thanks for your help, order placed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Sweet! What color temperature did you end up going with? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Sweet! What color temperature did you end up going with? Steve I went with the 4300k Philips package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Nice choice. Please post up some feedback once you get the product installed. Regards, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_MAXX Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Okay. Sorry it's not the HID feedback. But back to backup lights. I just replaced them with the JDM...50W, 950Lm bulbs. Big difference from the old LEDs I had. The cam is not washed out. XD please make a 2K Lm or better..btw.. The 4.3k Philips is still awesome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Got mine installed today. Incredibly easy install - I was like "wow, no way it is this easy" but it was. Literally plug stock harness in by the lamp, other three cables to ballast and away you go. Plenty of room under the hood to work too. Glad I saw here that you don't need to use the relay - which, by the way, why don't we? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/e116b04cca6619eb1042b9e8343a8f51.jpg Stock http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/4b212327677da8620262a7a4f15cec28.jpg 4300k Phillips HID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_l_s Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Glad I saw here that you don't need to use the relay - which, by the way, why don't we? Stock halogens draw 55w of power while HIDs only pull 35w. It's less strain on the electrical system than stock. Lighting Mods: $10 Footwell Illumination | Tail as Turn | Fog as DRL Diode Dynamics C-Lights | RX350 Bi-Xenon Retrofit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4xit Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Stock halogens draw 55w of power while HIDs only pull 35w. It's less strain on the electrical system than stock. Thanks man. So even 55w HID lamps would work without the relay? Not that I plan on getting those. 35 are killer as is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDepot Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Got mine installed today. Incredibly easy install - I was like "wow, no way it is this easy" but it was. Literally plug stock harness in by the lamp, other three cables to ballast and away you go. Plenty of room under the hood to work too. Glad I saw here that you don't need to use the relay - which, by the way, why don't we? 4300k Phillips HID This turned out great! Enjoy the lights As for the relay harness, your vehicle doesn't need them because it doesn't have any CANbus system or "light out" indicators. Additionally, it's not needed since the HID system is 35W and your halogen bulbs are 55w so the HID lights are more efficient. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson96929 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Can we put 55 watts on the low beam? Heared something like if i put 55w it might melt the projector housinh? Is this true? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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