Nameless Downpipe: Official 5th Gen GT Install Thread

[Zakster87]

I'm anxiously waiting on the edge of my seat as well. I dont want to go through upgrading this and forking over money for a tune if there's going to be an incurable overboost issue. Especially since this is my DD and work car. Cant afford more than a weekend of downtime.

[GTEASER]

My GT isn't my DD, so I will be getting to this eventually later this year.

[Sm00veM00ve]

Okay last update for the turbo overboost issue :l....

So when they had it off the car and were looking to see if swapping housings was possible (which i learned after wouldn't be from lots of really good info on Jack's soap opera thread haha), they gave me a call and the guys said there's a crack in the housing which is causing the wastegate to not open essentially. I don't know how something like that can happen especially if BNR truly took it apart and made sure everything was in spec. So my theories: either it was cracked from Jack or maybe started there which could have been giving him his boost issues which was solved atleast for a little while with upgraded springs/porting, or BNR never really took it apart to make sure everything was good..or he noticed but decided not to do anything about it. Sooo I guess that's how my week is going, expensive ass paper weight :[

 

They got my stock turbo back on the car, finished up doing the last of the wiring for my headlights (halos/demon eyes and putting in a fog light switch since they were right there) and my tuner said that he was just going to try getting me into a tuning slot as soon as possible. Hopefully that takes care of my small little soap opera of problems for a while and the downpipe doesn't end up giving me any problems, will update again when its tuning time

[Ellesedil]

Here's hoping your tune is successful.

[wrxwhit]

Okay last update for the turbo overboost issue :l....

So when they had it off the car and were looking to see if swapping housings was possible (which i learned after wouldn't be from lots of really good info on Jack's soap opera thread haha), they gave me a call and the guys said there's a crack in the housing which is causing the wastegate to not open essentially. I don't know how something like that can happen especially if BNR truly took it apart and made sure everything was in spec. So my theories: either it was cracked from Jack or maybe started there which could have been giving him his boost issues which was solved atleast for a little while with upgraded springs/porting, or BNR never really took it apart to make sure everything was good..or he noticed but decided not to do anything about it. Sooo I guess that's how my week is going, expensive ass paper weight :[

 

They got my stock turbo back on the car, finished up doing the last of the wiring for my headlights (halos/demon eyes and putting in a fog light switch since they were right there) and my tuner said that he was just going to try getting me into a tuning slot as soon as possible. Hopefully that takes care of my small little soap opera of problems for a while and the downpipe doesn't end up giving me any problems, will update again when its tuning time

 

 

 

Who's tuning??

[solgt]

Okay last update for the turbo overboost issue :l....

So when they had it off the car and were looking to see if swapping housings was possible (which i learned after wouldn't be from lots of really good info on Jack's soap opera thread haha), they gave me a call and the guys said there's a crack in the housing which is causing the wastegate to not open essentially. I don't know how something like that can happen especially if BNR truly took it apart and made sure everything was in spec. So my theories: either it was cracked from Jack or maybe started there which could have been giving him his boost issues which was solved atleast for a little while with upgraded springs/porting, or BNR never really took it apart to make sure everything was good..or he noticed but decided not to do anything about it. Sooo I guess that's how my week is going, expensive ass paper weight :[

 

They got my stock turbo back on the car, finished up doing the last of the wiring for my headlights (halos/demon eyes and putting in a fog light switch since they were right there) and my tuner said that he was just going to try getting me into a tuning slot as soon as possible. Hopefully that takes care of my small little soap opera of problems for a while and the downpipe doesn't end up giving me any problems, will update again when its tuning time

Dam son. That's really fubar. At least you have a stock unit to get going.

Is it possible that since you have it, it has cracked? Lord knows. As you said it may have started from 1 and not noticeable until you. Or it just cracked from your use. Going from one location, temp, humidity, elevation plus cold/heat cycles to another may play a role. I'm just playing devils advocate to offer other ideas. Cause dam that-really-sucks. Expensive paper weight.

 

Hope the tuning goes well and last!

[Sm00veM00ve]

Who's tuning??

 

I get tuned by Paul at ECS Performance in CT :] They've been taking care of the turbo issues and lighting for me

 

Dam son. That's really fubar. At least you have a stock unit to get going.

Is it possible that since you have it, it has cracked? Lord knows. As you said it may have started from 1 and not noticeable until you. Or it just cracked from your use. Going from one location, temp, humidity, elevation plus cold/heat cycles to another may play a role. I'm just playing devils advocate to offer other ideas. Cause dam that-really-sucks. Expensive paper weight.

 

Hope the tuning goes well and last!

 

I've tried playing devils adv. too but I can't think of anyway it cracked..was packaged and shipped to me pretty well, I kept it inside in good environment never dropped or knocked or placed where it shouldn't have been, just bolted the turbo up to the headers, put everything back on the car and literally got to drive it 1 day..from my house up to ECS on base map, no boost or anything what so ever, the car was nice and warmed up before any dyno stuff so yeah man I/whole shop is pretty confused as to how this could happen..I'm pretty sure it must have had a slight crack from Jackal and when he had issues, they went away for a while with porting etc. but there's no real way to tell.. I'll be sending BNR an email shortly though I'm sure nothing's going to happen

 

Hopefully it can get done soon and thanks appreciate it! I'll be going to a dyno day event they're holding this upcoming saturday so I can find out then if I don't hear anything sooner, will post updates when I have them ;]

[Sm00veM00ve]

https://vimeo.com/166849267

Hope that works..short little clip from this past Saturday of launch control set at 4500. Crappy quality and to short I know :L whenever I get it back I'll have driving vids etc. Its pretty freakin loud haha

 

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[Starks]

So, success?!

 

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[ChrisCrash]

That sounds awesome smoove, no more creep with the NamelessDP?

 

Im currently having second thoughts about what I will be doing over the next year with the leggy. Trying to put a ring on a finger and get a house and I have this beautiful DP sitting in storage but also in need of some other more necessary parts like clutch and CBE (stock is getting rusty).

 

Im not 100% I want to do this but if I were to part with my nameless DP for 600 would anyone be interested?

[eckseleven]

Im not 100% I want to do this but if I were to part with my nameless DP for 600 would anyone be interested?

 

There has been a couple in the classifieds for a while for around that price or less. I think anyone looking for a DP is hesitant to buy one of these. I know I would be with half the people that have installed them having issues. Probably best to hold on to that until we learn more.

[Sm00veM00ve]

So, success?!

 

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Ah shoulda clarified that it's still not tuned, was just a base map and sitting on an alignment rack for now. I have a date for June 2nd ;[ hoping someone cancels before hand so I can grab their spot..but won't know if the issues are resolved for a couple weeks still

That sounds awesome smoove, no more creep with the NamelessDP?

 

Im currently having second thoughts about what I will be doing over the next year with the leggy. Trying to put a ring on a finger and get a house and I have this beautiful DP sitting in storage but also in need of some other more necessary parts like clutch and CBE (stock is getting rusty).

 

Im not 100% I want to do this but if I were to part with my nameless DP for 600 would anyone be interested?

Still not tuned yet should have stated that my bad.

Yeah sounds like you have a lot on your plate coming up haha I'll know in a couple weeks if everything's good or not

 

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[Sm00veM00ve]

Hey guys sooooo not good news. There was a cancellation yesterday at the shop, they put the leggy up, started to tune but ran into overboost issues again. I asked if it was because the flapper is hitting the lip on the divorced pipe on the dp and he said that was the culprit. So looks like that little lip on the inside atleast for me (back with stock turbo) is obstructing the wastegate from opening properly. I told them he can just cut that part off and then it should be good to go. That's the only problem my tuner found. So was a good thing I decided to leave the car up there rather than bringing it up on June 2nd just to find out it would overboost again. So looks like the downpipe was an issue.

Car made some hugeee torque numbers at 25psi (he obviously let off as soon as it jumped up), was making 465awtrq. The final tune shouldnt be nearly that high since I'm pretty sure we still have the same head studs as the other ej motors which becomes an issue around 23ish psi, and I'm running out of octane, if I went up to 100 or e85 I could run a little higher boost, but again I'm not trying to go number hunting, rather have safe/reliable and save the power left on the table for when I go e85. So there was a quick update :L

[GTEASER]

So just to clarify, can you use one of the pics that eckseleven or someone posted here to indicate where "that little lip on the inside" is and what he cut off? So after cutting that off, was he able to keep boost controlled properly?

[Starks]

I'm pretty aggravated about the over boost news.

 

Sorry you still had problems but thank you for being one of the pioneers.

 

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[jojorios]

I've already pretty much accepted that this purchase was probably not the best idea.

[Sm00veM00ve]

http://imgur.com/mrcUktm

 

Aparently its the same thing as Ecks ran into on page 6 of this thread, again this is just what I've heard over the phone and I didn't get a chance to see the downpipe off or anything. When it was overboosting, it was pulled off and taken apart again so have to wait and see until next time it gets to go on the dyno if this resolved the issues or not. From what he said, this was the only thing effecting the wastegate opening so it should solve the problem. Hoping there's another cancellation soon.

 

Yeah man it sucks, but what are ya gunna do I guess, just have to see how it plays out. Hoping that this will solve the issue. And after quickly skimming through the previous pages I wanted to also clarify I am using the oem studs, I didn't get new hardware since my studs were in good condition.

[ripstik]

started to tune but ran into overboost issues again. I asked if it was because the flapper is hitting the lip on the divorced pipe on the dp and he said that was the culprit. So looks like that little lip on the inside atleast for me (back with stock turbo) is obstructing the wastegate from opening properly.

 

Did you try pushing the DP away from the flapper as much as it can? someone got this recommendation from Nameless

[ChrisCrash]

Im still holding out hope. If i end up arranging the funds to get everything all together and tuned I'll work around the issues. It has worked for a couple of people.

 

Also, stock midpipe with cans only was suggested, not sure if anyone has done that.

[GTEASER]

I feel pretty responsible for getting everyone into this group buy in the first place since I am the one that originally asked Nameless to consider it for us, but I am also truly disappointed with Nameless for changing the design of the dump pipe from the S bend they had before to the design of the GB DP. I was uncomfortable about the change, but was under the impression that they had hard evidence that the change would not affect performance. It was to save a little cost of production on their end, but it looks like it resulted in a piece of artwork that's useless for it's intended purpose.

 

I have my GB downpipe, and I am also picking up Swannee's which was one of the original 3 or 4 that Nameless produced with their original S bend dump pipe design. I plan to install the GB DP this summer and get tuned. If I encounter overboost, I will swap out the DP's to Swannee's and try again. If I get no overboost, we know that the change of design is the culprit.

 

I need everyone here to document everything in this thread. Pics, data, info etc. I will be contacting Nameless shortly to discuss the situation with them and direct them to this thread.

[FLlegacy]

When you get the original dp can you take measurements of the flange plate and pipe placement, that seems to be where the issue arises with the flapper.

 

Also, as I was reading through this again, it occured to me maybe we should get rid of the divorced pipe and just leave it as a semi bellmouth. That should equalize pressure between both side and still improve flow out of the turbo. I still plan to install mine just waiting for a good time, and getting enough information to port the wastegate on my own or take it to a localish shop to have it done.

[GTEASER]

When you get the original dp can you take measurements of the flange plate and pipe placement, that seems to be where the issue arises with the flapper.

 

 

Yes the pipe that extends toward the turbine does seem to be the issue, and I will get measurements of both designs. But I also fear that the angle that the dump pipe comes into the main pipe is a flow issue. We will see shortly.

[Sm00veM00ve]

Did you try pushing the DP away from the flapper as much as it can? someone got this recommendation from Nameless

 

Yup I skimmed through that and told them that originally, though mine didn't seem like it was gunna move much, so cutting would probably be the easier solution. They were originally going to try just that but I'd rather not waste time to potentially get my car back, from looking at it he said it still might hit even if it's shifted over, so that was my reasoning for giving him the go-ahead to cut that excess part.

 

Sorry don't know why that picture didn't load, but it's the same picture from page 6. And I also read about mating the DP with the stock mid/or whole cbe but I love the full nameless tbe sound way to much to switch out of it haha

 

I don't think anyone here is blaming or putting you at fault for any issues coming up GT, no way you could have predicted so many issues, rather it seems to be more on nameless for changing the design. Interested to see if you end up running into any issues over the summer when you tune, and if you have both downpipes off please get some comparison pictures, I'd like to show my tuner eventually too since he's never seen issues like this before. When I go up and meet with my tuner next I'll see if I can get a little more information, show him a picture of the downpipe and make sure the excess part that was shown in the picture is the same part he was cutting, just to make sure thats a 100% correct statement, and ofcourse I will post updates whenever I receive new information.

[Ellesedil]

I need everyone here to document everything in this thread. Pics, data, info etc. I will be contacting Nameless shortly to discuss the situation with them and direct them to this thread.

 

I doubt it will come to this, but if they need to physically see a car, let me know. I'm just 30 minutes south of Nameless and my downpipe is still in a box in my garage.

[Ellesedil]

Sorry don't know why that picture didn't load, but it's the same picture from page 6.