jojorios Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 #alternativefacts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo03 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 So glad to have an AVO downpipe and twin Tial 38s to properly control boost.[emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Maybe someone should send this thread to ETS begging them to make us some more of their dual WG headers. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakster87 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 ... Sigh. Guess I'll still be porting the turbo and sticking with the stock catback for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCrash Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Lets look at the upside of it all. We have a DP that can provide non stop boost for high power levels. Just need to complement everything around it since it cant be controlled easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 They are lurking right now....maybe we'll get a response...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelZ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) What we need is a member with uncontrolled over boost to try porting the wastegate and see what the results are. A few degrees more opening might* help but IMO I don't think it's hurting much if any. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk I may be able to help with a little info and some evidence. Disclaimer: Picture heavy post for evidence and all numbers are on an Australian dyno, because well, i'm Australian. I run a no name (not nameless, i legit have no idea where it came from) DP with high flow cat and X-force the rest of the way back. http://i.imgur.com/BPS1AHC.jpg It's a long story involving shitty manufacturers services, misfires and boost leaks as to how i got to this point however i was overboosting like a boss! My mechanic spent a few hours checking things, changing things and looking for restrictiors etc all to no avail - She just wouldn't drop below 21psi and this is on wast gate. http://i.imgur.com/JVuGzJL.jpg Nath (mechanic), has done his fair share of Subies in his time and suggested boring out the exhaust housing - he's a close friend and a dope mechanic so obviously i told him to go ahead. When we pulled the snail - i say "we" it was mostly him - we noticed that the actuator won't fully open because it's fouled by the housing so we hit it with the die grinder and removed the offending material (photo is pretty terrible because of the new shiny surface). http://i.imgur.com/CkynfSw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JOXdHYe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/4iqGGNC.jpg Then proceeded to bore the housing because there is a gnarly lump in on the way to the waste gate. http://i.imgur.com/kvbQOsJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8udthBj.jpg Back on the Dyno and it was manageable again. I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head - i want to say to 14psi - but Paul (tuner) said that they were where they should be on waste gate. Sadly i don't have a sheet for the waste gate only runs - sorry. http://i.imgur.com/D4fb90M.jpg She's running 16psi now with no problems - Pretty sure the sheet for this is in my car, i'll try to remember to grab a photo and chuck it up. Edited March 1, 2017 by WheelZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 What really bothers me is that Nameless is still posting on here as if their downpipe is a great product and were all just not using it right. They need to take responsibility and at least acknowledge that they sold us an unfinished product whether it was intentional or not. Instead they'd rather keep posting useless data and act like everything is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Its so good that it makes even more power than the original design, with no boost creep! (Disclaimer: you may need to use leaky oem valve, a grimmspeed ebcs, possibly port wg, bang on the pipe to avoid the flapper possibly hitting, make sure you pull it in the right direction, use oem studs and possibly have to purchase a custom header with ewg). Boost control is YMMV. Still in beta testing. We also carry a replacement BPV to fix that leaky valve..... Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jertfunk Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Let me run something by you guys, tell me what you think. If we can all agree that porting is the only way to fix our problem and I was the maker of the downpipe that claimed to do something that it doesn't and took money from 20 people and wanted to make things right here's what I would do. I would get a turbo housing port and polish the wastegate remove material so the flapper can open further throw in some new mounting hardware and gaskets if needed and create some nice step by step instructions on how to remove and install and send it out to the people from the group buy with a return shipping label for their core. Take care of the guys that have already installed the pipe first and work your way down the list until everyone is taken care of. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's not that easy to source the housings unfortunately Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The problem there is the actuator only goes so far, the material is not stopping it from opening further, it simply doesn't open further than its 30% or so. As for porting the housings, I wouldn't bet on that being a service Nameless would offer at all, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The problem there is the actuator only goes so far Whoa there. We don't have any actual data to support that idea. I'd say a 45* opening angle would be a little bit better flowing than ~30% but the question is how much. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jertfunk Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 It's not that easy to source the housings unfortunately Was thinking more like one at a time kinda like the community housing we were trying to get going. It will take a while but we've already waited over a year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Whoa there. We don't have any actual data to support that idea. I'd say a 45* opening angle would be a little bit better flowing than ~30% but the question is how much. I believe I posted a video showing the travel of the actuator and that was with greater than 20 psi of pressure. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) With the level of service they've shown over the year (also remember they messed up some dp orders with missing bungs too) I doubt they come through. It'd be nice but it is what it is. We found the problem. I'd say just move on ourselves, fix the issue, and don't let your friends buy nameless again. I have at least two shops here that can do a port job if people don't feel comfortable themselves. I'd suggest jumping in line with the community core swap and I could set up some kind of port deal maybe. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Edited March 2, 2017 by Starks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 With the level of service they've shown over the year (also remember they messed up some dp orders with missing bungs too) I doubt they come through. It'd be nice but it is what it is. We found the problem. I'd say just move on ourselves, fix the issue, and don't let your greetings but nameless again. I have at least two shops here that can do a port job of people don't feel comfortable themselves. I'd suggest jumping in line with the community core swap and I could set up some kind of port deal maybe. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk I completely get the overboost sucks, but we still got a nice downpipe with topnotch materials. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I believe I posted a video showing the travel of the actuator and that was with greater than 20 psi of pressure. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Yes, and we're very grateful. That limit doesn't prove that opening the flapper further will actually improve flow to the point where overboost is cured however. Definitely worth testing but before this is shown to work I wouldn't advise everyone to run out and get a new actuator. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) I was speaking to the stock travel not being limited by the material on the housing, but by the actuator travel. Not whether more opening affected the wastegate flow, that's where we are losing each other Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Edited March 2, 2017 by FLlegacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apexofthevortex Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 So I guess nameless got locked out of their account again? Or is there another rally going on? Or what about [insert bs excuse here]? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 This pops into my head.... https://youtu.be/f-G4DI9AzB8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So... I just received the community turbine housing. Mated it up with the dp. The flap definitely contacts the DP for sure. There's almost no wiggle room to adjust this thing for clearance. There's no question about it, the flapper interferes with this thing. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Guys guys guys...Smh. Did no one not see this? Even if our flapper could open up 100% the flapper would contact the flapper opening on the DP. Period. That's the problem. What do you guys want? A vid? Pics? I can show whatever. The issue is clear as day to me. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 ^^ You've got that flapper open 90*. The actuator isn't physically capable of opening it that far. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm trying to show where it's contacting. I see that the flapper can't open that far. I have the two pieces mated and manually operating the lever with a pen through the lever arm. I can feel the resistance and it scraping. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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