jojorios Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Rev matching is one of those things I just can't get. I tried doing it a few times and I feel like a snail while doing it. I just feel like I can't do it fast enough. And forget heel/toe. I feel like i'm going to break my ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Way back I had a 1986 mustang GT 5.0, and after my dad had it for a day while upshifting without the clutch, the car never felt the same again. I have since avoided shifting without the clutch My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Heel&toe I can only do 6th-5th and 4th-3rd...moving quick enough down to 3-2 and 5-4 ain't gonna happen When you grow up drivng a semi at 9years old on a farm and your legs aren't long enough to go all the way to the floor you learn rev match pretty quick in a field.. In my 91leggy I only use the clutch when starting out. Just personal preference and technique. Im coming up on 60k and will just continue to use ExtraS. Clutch dampener delte is on my 'to-do' list at the same time and then looks like I'll go with the boomba for an Xmas gift to myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Or rev match that's one of those things that comes with time though. Heel/Toe still is hard for me downshifting but up shifting i rarely clutch. Again, nothing wrong with technique. Not doing anything I haven't done for years. I always rev match downshifts. The grind is actually when upshifting though, so I'm just releasing the clutch as the revs drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I had a grind going into 5th in my GT. Always blamed the fluid but never did anything about it. With that stack of drag strip timeslips I cleaned out of the glovebox, I can't believe I never had any issues with 1st through 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Or rev match that's one of those things that comes with time though. Heel/Toe still is hard for me downshifting but up shifting i rarely clutch. I had a 1978 Alfa Romeo Alfetta. The trans was in the back and in those things the syncros always go bad. I had to learn heel toe real quick just to drive it. Otherwise every downshift was constant grinding. It is a great skill to have, albeit not always necessary. My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 ^ My experience with that cocktail wasn't anywhere near as good as yours. I may have noticed a slight difference when I first did the fluid change, but that quickly faded after a couple days. It's actually grinding going in to 5th occasionally now. I doubt it's my technique since I'm not doing anything differently than before. Thinking about draining it and putting in straight motul. Weird. Because for me it was very significant. Are you using at least 3 quarts of lightweight shockproof, the blue stuff? With that said, ive never had any issues with up shifting. Just downshifting to 4th and 2nd were difficult before the fluid change. I between the fluid swap and the heavy shift knob, I can row the gears with just my fingers. Up and down, effortless. Perhaps you have a clutch issue. You shouldnt even need synchros on 5th, let alone good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yep, same ingredients and amounts that you mentioned. It's odd how these transmissions seem to vary so much. I only have issues downshifting in to 2nd, something that hasn't got better with the fluid change. And since the car was new, I occasionally have issues up shifting to 3rd. Doesn't matter if I shift fast or slow, sometimes it just won't go and I have to back off and try again. I recall someone else on this forum having the same problem with 3rd. I need to get a heavy knob yet and I'm curious if the weights on the Boomba SSA would improve feel over the Perrin one. I'm all for making these little improvements but I have to admit though, this car is pretty much ruining my love for manual. Most of these mods help but I don't think it will ever be perfect. Must have had a guy with a bad hangover on the assembly line the day my trans was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I get a slight grind if I rush a shift from say 4-6 or 3-5 if I pause before engaging the gear its all good. Did not have an issue before going to extra-s in the trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon.mol Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I double clutch a lot, out of habit and it makes a huge difference. Only while driving casually of course. http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/54696381.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 And when racing, I hope, wouldn't want to blow any welds out granny shifting... Got one of those on the chat thing at work, but with "unsynchronized transmissions" as the bottom chunk of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yeah you have to be careful with the welds on the intake, cause noss will blow them out......especially when you have enough to "blow hisself up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 the performance shop I take my WRX to highly recommended the Kartboy STS adapter over the Perrin and the Boomba. I was told the boomba one is the worst quality of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarang Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 the performance shop I take my WRX to highly recommended the Kartboy STS adapter over the Perrin and the Boomba. I was told the boomba one is the worst quality of them all. What's there to be low quality about it? It's a piece of metal. I have had both the Boomba and the Perrin and they're both machined to the correct specs --- one has counter weights and the other does not. I don't see a relevant difference between all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I have the boomba and I can tell you first hand the quality is pretty good. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 this was per the shop that I get my maintenance done at which is run by Subaru enthusiasts and they all drive WRX's and STI's. I believe they have a deal with Kartboy which is why they push the Kartboy one so much. I took their word for it and ordered it from another vendor who wasn't going to charge me a ridic price like they were. When I had my Legacy I had a lot of success with Kartboy parts so I stuck with them per their recommendation. I know the actual boomba STS with a shorter shift lever isn't so great and the amount of time and labor required to install one takes a really long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 this was per the shop that I get my maintenance done at which is run by Subaru enthusiasts and they all drive WRX's and STI's. I believe they have a deal with Kartboy which is why they push the Kartboy one so much. I took their word for it and ordered it from another vendor who wasn't going to charge me a ridic price like they were. When I had my Legacy I had a lot of success with Kartboy parts so I stuck with them per their recommendation. I know the actual boomba STS with a shorter shift lever isn't so great and the amount of time and labor required to install one takes a really long time. It doesn't take that long, really doesn't take any longer than installing say a sts and ssa...now where you are a smidgen right is the sts is not made for the legacy so the angle is off a little bit toward the rear of the shifter box, but in a wrx it probably works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 on the WRX you really need a lift to do the full on STS since you have to go back and fourth between being under the car and inside the car a few times. Here's a video of the install, I'm guessing it took the Subispeed guys a few hours to do it, the average joe enthusiast I could see this being an all day ordeal especially if you're using jackstands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 on the WRX you really need a lift to do the full on STS since you have to go back and fourth between being under the car and inside the car a few times. Here's a video of the install, I'm guessing it took the Subispeed guys a few hours to do it, the average joe enthusiast I could see this being an all day ordeal especially if you're using jackstands Actually my name is Joe, and I consider myself average and an enthusaist. I installed the OEM WRX STS in my Legacy in about 3 hours AND in that time took gobs of pics and measurements comparing it to the OEM shifter. The Perrin SSA took maybe an hour. Both things were installed at separate times and included at least one end of the car up on jackstands. It was not by any means an all day affair. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If you can not get a full on STS done in less than half day, you probably should be paying someone else to work on your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If you have to jump between jackstands and the ground, that becomes time consuming. My car came with the STI STS installed and i'm happy with that. The Kartboy adapter with Bearing and Kartboy Shift Stop, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Lol...you need a lift...lol! I did mine by jacking up the passenger side of the car. You do need to get inside the car to take the shifter out and put it back in. It is the nature is the shifter no matter which brand you use the same work is required. Oh wait, kart boy doesn't have a short shifter for these cars... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Oh wait, kart boy doesn't have a short shifter for these cars... They make a bushing that goes on the transmission side of things like Boomba and Perrin. http://www.kartboy.com/x4/product.php?productid=16286&cat=278&bestseller=Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE RZA Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Which is exactly what I was saying I have all this time install wasn't the easiest on jackstands but there is a huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Lol...you need a lift...lol! I did mine by jacking up the passenger side of the car. You do need to get inside the car to take the shifter out and put it back in. It is the nature is the shifter no matter which brand you use the same work is required. Oh wait, kart boy doesn't have a short shifter for these cars... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk They make a bushing that goes on the transmission side of things like Boomba and Perrin. http://www.kartboy.com/x4/product.php?productid=16286&cat=278&bestseller=Y Which is exactly what I was saying I have all this time install wasn't the easiest on jackstands but there is a huge difference Exactly they don't make a short shifter, so there is no need to go inside the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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