TSiWRX Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The Gilboa Snake has two barrels.... http://www.gilboa-rifle.com/ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gilboa_snake_ar_15_rifle-tm-tfb.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/stacks_image_348-tfb.jpeg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/stacks_image_347-tfb.jpeg I don't understand the point of the optics/laser. [ame=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5_1370945460]LiveLeak.com - Bank robber takes pregnant women hostage.[/ame] <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
700watts Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 gun control at it's finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 less effective than 1 .300WinMag, or the old school .30-06 Agreed. This is why they make different kinds of shoes. Not one design fits all applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nouse4aname Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Not all of us are old enough to remember WW2, gramps How about the Korean war. We were still flying Mustangs up against MIG-15 jets. And the F-82 Twin Mustang while we're on a double barrel sort of topic. http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/F-82-Twin-Mustang-5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 How about the Vietnam-era F-4 Phantom II "Double Ugly"? hurr durr just had my wisdom teeth taken out... http://paranormal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/F-4_Phantom_II_Wallpaper_wxop8-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 How about the Vietnam-era F-4 Phantom II "Double Ugly"? hurr durr just had my wisdom teeth taken out... http://paranormal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/F-4_Phantom_II_Wallpaper_wxop8-1.jpg I have never understood why so many considered the F-4 Phantom ugly or called it a flying brick. I've always loved the look of that plane. So damn malevolent looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 When was the last time you had your prescription checked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I have never understood why so many considered the F-4 Phantom ugly or called it a flying brick. I've always loved the look of that plane. So damn malevolent looking. Same here, I thought this was one of the coolest looking planes during it's time period. The military channel put out a really nice documentry on it's mission during the Vietnam war. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Who members when the Blue Angels flew phantoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee199969 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Same here, I thought this was one of the coolest looking planes during it's time period. The military channel put out a really nice documentry on it's mission during the Vietnam war. I was also a fan of the A-10 Warthog. so as far as the aesthetics.. My "Build" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Don't forget the Thunderbirds either. http://www.internetmodeler.com/artman/uploads/1/hsgs1914.jpg My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I was also a fan of the A-10 Warthog. so as far as the aesthetics.. I'm just a big fan of military planes, each are unique in their own way. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I was at an airshow with an old Lockheed A-29 Hudson did aerobatics. Slow, but aerobatics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Hudson If one of those birds can do the air dance, even a pig like a Phantom can do it. It just makes it more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 When was the last time you had your prescription checked? You tried book reading yet? Put down the porn, son. And for the record, I think Mig-21s were hot shit aircraft, too. Beautiful agents of death with awesome handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyengineer Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 How about the Vietnam-era F-4 Phantom II "Double Ugly"? hurr durr just had my wisdom teeth taken out... http://paranormal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/F-4_Phantom_II_Wallpaper_wxop8-1.jpg I've been obsessed with the F-4 since I was a kid. I always taught it had a really menacing look about it. I read an article about some lucky rich dudes owning decommissioned ones as private flyers. That would be bad ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I didn't know the USAF sold off old fighters that way. I know the Russians have done so with old Migs like the -15, -17, and -21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyengineer Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm just a big fan of military planes, each are unique in their own way. Totally, function can be a beautiful thing. I love the A-10 for what it is: A tank with wings for close encounters. I get to see them fly by when I'm at work some times. The 127th Wing, MI ANG flies the East Coast of the Thumb area since we border Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Who members when the Blue Angels flew phantoms? I "remember" all of their air shows in the intervening years first with the A4F Phantom, then the A4 Skyhawk, then the F/A18 Hornet A/B and most recently the F/A Hornet C/D. And the Fat Albert C-130 has been their support aircraft during that duration. FWIW - I think the RA-5C Vigilante and the F14 Tomcat were some of the most lethal and elegant of their generation. On a race back to the carrier, the Vigi would absolutely scald the Phantom - and they were essentially, on-paper, equal. Vigilante http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/RA-5C_RVAH-6_in_flight_1970.jpg But my first love is the F14 Tomcat. Lethality personified http://avioners.net/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-3eYfq-xpRo0/T2nPjR9nWWI/AAAAAAAAHwo/7QdsX2KSC0E/s1600/f14_tomcat_silhouette.jpg http://avioners.net/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-pDGTaz3fYuo/UMZ9sMvE02I/AAAAAAAANcQ/Oa4jOgI2O30/s1600/f14_tomcat_wing_retracted.jpg http://avioners.net/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-_iwQakef4Nc/T0OXOxD6tlI/AAAAAAAAHl0/fNqgE3ZqatM/s1600/grumman_f14_tomcat.jpg - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 And the Vigilante could poop a nuke! Best bomb delivery system ever!!! Weirdest, too. It did have a short career, though. And a HUGE plane for a carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 But could it fly...? Like the wind, and handled equally well. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyengineer Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 But my first love is the F14 Tomcat. Lethality personified Sorry I had to do it [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwBbrngafl0[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 And beautiful. Frankly, I'm surprised the Tomcat was retired so soon. Guess it was because of the demise of the demise of threat of the Backfire threat to the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Like the F4, it was expensive to operate, and the M.I.C. found a way to convince Congress and the Navy that they needed a dual-purpose F/A aircraft to replace both the A6 and the F14. Introduce the F/A-18, which excelled at neither and didn't have the legs to get out and back without a whole host of Texaco's along the way. Cost-benefit = neutral (at best). - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Like the F4, it was expensive to operate, and the M.I.C. found a way to convince Congress and the Navy that they needed a dual-purpose F/A aircraft to replace both the A6 and the F14. Introduce the F/A-18, which excelled at neither and didn't have the legs to get out and back without a whole host of Texaco's along the way. Cost-benefit = neutral (at best). I followed the F-18 procurement back in the day. I remember it came in real short on range compared not just to the A-6, but the A-7, too. I also think the fall of the Soviet Union had a lot to do with the demise of the F-14. No Backfire cruise missile threat, no need for an interceptor aircraft with standoff capabilities to protect the fleet. I wonder if they are rethinking that with rise of the Chinese threat. I don't know if the ballistic carrier killer will work but Chinese SUs with air to ship missiles will be a heckuva threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 All this nostalgic discussion......NOT AWESOME. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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