pleaidestar Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 You have to calculate cross-sectional area, but the Hotchkis is hollow, right? So... let's use a solid 25mm Perrin bar instead. The cross sectional area of a solid OEM bar of 18mm is 3.142159 x (18/2)^2 = 254.47mm. If you use two, that's a total of 508.94mm. A 25mm Perrin bar only gives you a cross-section of 490.87mm. OP wins. It's physics. Hollow bars are meant to be filled with something...how about concrete, molten aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated bucko3the7man Posted December 12, 2013 I Donated Share Posted December 12, 2013 or 16mm. can't remember which Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 aren't the stock rear bars 15mm? or 16mm. can't remember which I don't remember. They're tiny. And a pair of them a better-handling car does not make. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm25rs Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 You have to calculate cross-sectional area, but the Hotchkis is hollow, right? So... let's use a solid 25mm Perrin bar instead. The cross sectional area of a solid OEM bar of 18mm is 3.142159 x (18/2)^2 = 254.47mm. If you use two, that's a total of 508.94mm. A 25mm Perrin bar only gives you a cross-section of 490.87mm. OP wins. It's physics. I've got a little rust on my mechanical engineering degree, but since we're talking rotation, shouldn't we be looking at moment of inertia (related to area and shape)? And if so, where are all the I-Beam rear sways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 "If you ain't first, you're last, M Sprank!" Now git r' done! Help me baby Jesus, I'm on FIRE!!! :lol: Trying to cut open a Hotchkis bar to insert a second Hotchkis bar inside it now. Or maybe I can inset a Whiteline bar inside the hollow Hotchkis bar. Kinda like the Turducken of sway bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I've got a little rust on my mechanical engineering degree, but since we're talking rotation, shouldn't we be looking at moment of inertia (related to area and shape)? And if so, where are all the I-Beam rear sways? I'm an EE. I can tell you whether it's conductive. Beyond that, I'm of no use. I was just trying to justify this using the skills available to someone who might think it's a good idea. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggerheist Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Lilbrudder, quit d1ck riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated bucko3the7man Posted December 12, 2013 I Donated Share Posted December 12, 2013 Turducken is delicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Siamese Sway Bar GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCASEYS Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 --- I donated to LegacyGT.com which allows me to have this nifty signature. If anything SCASEYS posts ever becomes a sticky i'm gonna light this whole place on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aac0036 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/DLumTv7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Maab_Connor/I-See-What-You-Did-There-Pelican_zpsa5eb5346.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghengismong Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I don't remember. They're tiny. And a pair of them a better-handling car does not make. I just changed mine out and the stock rsb on the legacy 5th gen n/a are 15mm and the gt's are 15mm as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
700watts Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 this thread is on it's way to epic....not there yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestratomaster Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 this thread is on it's way to epic....not there yet I think the word you were looking for was legen...... wait for it......... dary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaNu1142 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 There's a chasm between this & just about any thread started by turbodog. I can wait. Tits mcgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 ^^Do you mean schism? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/DLumTv7.jpg now we finally getting somewhere 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 248K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 258K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah, except the "snowplow" splitter has evolved into a completely refined design that works now. Boxkita has looked at it while visiting and I have a friend that's a SCCA driver that did A/B tests for me and he was impressed with the front stability it caused....SO THERE ! ! :lol: So glad my name for it stuck. You should put a Hiniker sticker on it for shits and grins. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know why the OP didn't use something stiffer than just another sway bar clamped to another sway bar. If controlling body roll in the rear so the car will oversteer more is what the OP is after make some bump stops that limit rear suspension travel to about .5", and then take some square steel tubing and wrap the stock sway bar with cut and welded steel cage around it with the ends tapered down to and welded at the ends of the stock sway bar. Then put a snow plow on front so the front end is more planted reducing understeer. For an added bonus inflate the rear tires to like 50-60psi so the contact patch is tiny in the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brprs Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Why stop at 2? What about the front? I know most say the rear makes the more noticeable difference, but if you were to add an additional bar to the front and have 3 in the rear I think you'd be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Not a bad idea. Or figure out a way to take the independent suspension out completely since it is far too flexible and not stiff enough. Replace both ends with Dana 60's, and attach them with solid brackets welded to the unibody. No springs at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't know why the OP didn't use something stiffer than just another sway bar clamped to another sway bar. If controlling body roll in the rear so the car will oversteer more is what the OP is after make some bump stops that limit rear suspension travel to about .5", and then take some square steel tubing and wrap the stock sway bar with cut and welded steel cage around it with the ends tapered down to and welded at the ends of the stock sway bar. Then put a snow plow on front so the front end is more planted reducing understeer. For an added bonus inflate the rear tires to like 50-60psi so the contact patch is tiny in the rear. Too much welding. Zip ties are faster and lighter. "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 For his next trick he will use zip ties on the coil springs to lower the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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