wrxwhit Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 True I guess to a point as your mostly cornering and not flat out pushing it down a drag strip. Just the point that our stock engines will only tolerate so much pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutchard Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 come on man autoX is barely any tougher on your car than street driving, especially on the motor the motor doesn't hardly get it's neck rung half the time If you're not bouncing off the rev limiter at least a few times, you're doing it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Thanks for the support everyone. First engine failure was from a cracked ringland and the piston started to break apart slightly. As for this we won't know until I get it all out. Had a hard time sleeping last night and I'm already second guessing myself on what to do. Of course I can't jump to conclusions but I think too much. A majortiy of the miles on this build were me just cruising and I did 1 autoX session with it. Oil changed regularly 15w-50 if you want to know. All Blackstone samples were great. Just one of those things where you just have to put your hands in the air and think "really?!?!" I talked with an insurance friend because before I took it home from the shop after my front end collision they had mentioned an odd screetch noise that would periodically happen. Figuring it was a throwout bearing on the clutch. My friend suggested I take off the timing covers and see if there is any damage behind them because if something did indeed get pushed back into there causing timing to skip then I may be able to reopen the insurance case. My car has only moved 15-20miles from the shop, which is basically the drive home and then a few weeks ago I drove it around the block a few times is all but there was no noticeable sounds or codes or inconsistent readings on my AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I highly doubt you threw a rod, spun a bearing or dropped a valve on startup. I would do as your friend suggested and pull the timing cover to have a look. It's possible that the belt was damaged from the accident and it just finally decided to shred itself inside the cover which could make quite a racket on that plastic cover. Hopefully it's still relatively intact and you didn't skip a tooth. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsp0kn Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Nooooooo!!!! Early April Fool's? Conspiracy? Please tell me this is not real..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww516 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Did you get any other unhappy noises after the initial one before you were able to get it shut down, or did you notice? Just trying to brainstorm other things it could have been, or help figure out what's going on. Hopefully it's nothing too serious... You could also consider dropping the oil pan before you pull the engine, see if you can see anything obvious from underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugsSin Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sorry to hear of the problems but I'll agree with pulling the timing cover and checking the belt and tensioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Cww516 the initial whammy back in 2013 was after downshifting, giving some heavy throttle, and then it felt like I ran into a giant puddle of water. The car surged extremely hard and lights lit up the dash board. Thinking it was a bad coil pack, but the result was much worse after doing the compression tests. Thats when I reddid literally everything. New block, rods, pistons, valves you name it. So after a year without the car...Some of us that have been here awhile..waited for me to complete it since I had it left in Seattle to be built. Picked it up last April and drove it all over the place. Everything felt great. Then this past Sept? Or Oct? I didn't brake fast enough and hit a vehicle infront of me resulting in me deciding to do the JDM conversion at the time. Car has sat in the garage since getting it back from the shop. Iirc is havent moved it more than 20miles As for yesterday it was right after I started the car and 3-5secs of idle then a odd noise and then then it was REALLY loud rumble and shaking I shut it off immediately. It wasn't normal at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsp0kn Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Coil pack sploded and it's idling on 3 cylinders. Hope it's something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 This doesn't sound like a "misfire" it's something contacting in a bad way. I've experienced a misfire before and due to a hose on my manifold being loose from the BOV. This isn't something I can describe in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 CEL Stu!? Any codes to read or maybe straight mechanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Code came back...reads FML Serious note though. No codes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrxwhit Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Ohhhhh, not good but still in for a positive outcome. When does diagnosing take place to get answers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 I have so much on the table idk when I'll start. First get the covers off so I'll have to removed the obstacles in the way to get to see the passenger side. I recently have had some issues with my back so that leaning forward at times causes it to lock and been in and out of the chiropractor office since the start of the year. On top of paying in taxes this past year, planning for a trip to NYC in June. Saving for a new home this fall. I don't want to spend time on the car when my mind is focused elsewhere. As we all have seen I don't have a problem with it sitting for extended periods of time. I'm patient and wont make a hasty emotional decisions. I don't have a timeline for things. Here's what I thought about alot on today Step 1- get covers off and take a look at the belt. Step-2 drain the oil.. Probably send it off to Blackstone and running the rest through a nylon to see if it catches any flakes of noticeable metal bits. Step-3 get the engine out and prepare for the worst and see what's inside. Step 4- See what things are going to cost and take it from there. Maybeeeee a part out idk. Lots of unknowns. I'll take my time, as most have seen before I don't have a problem with waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkshooter Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Sad to hear. That sinking feeling makes one want to hurl. Good luck, I hope it turns out for the best it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I know this is going to sound real dumb, but I am going to say it anyway. Given that whatever damage is done is already done. Have you thought about re starting the car to maybe identify the noise a bit better? If it is catastrophic, how much worse could it get? My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Good question. I actually did and it's definitely a clack clack. Not a small tiking sound like a normal Subaru startup. My ears are pretty in tune and so are my buddies and his words were "Oh f*ck..." I know it sounds stupid and some people are like well it can't be any sound. But there's some things you just know aren't right, this is one of them. The type of sound that makes yours eyes widen and panic, palms get sweaty and your heart starts to race from aniexty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Oh trust me I know the Oh F*ck sound. I have heard it on many occasions. Well I am very sorry to hear of the problems. Although doubtful I hope it is nothing too major. My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I'm sorry to hear about this Stu. Hoping it's nothing major. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Call Fidel over to PlasticDip and duct tape it back together. Really, sorry to hear, what a bummer to go through again. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy.B Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I had my headgasket go on my 91' Legacy. I had noticed a few weeks before the milky colored oil on the dipstick and new what was gonna happen, just not when. Was giving someone a ride home and was in the middle of traffic, wasn't paying much attention to the temp gauge but before I caught it *knock knock knock* By the time I got it out of the traffic it was already started to smoke a bit. I ended up scrapping it because it had too much other work that needed done. I still miss it today though. It was an agile little car. I'd imagine it's more of a heartache in a car that wasn't just a beater but one you've put a lot of effort in. Hopefully it's towards the cheaper end of repair. Timothy.B's 2011 LEGACY 3.6R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sm00veM00ve Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Sorry to hear about this man, its just one thing after another :[ Hoping it's nothing super major, best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCrash Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Terrible news man, but hopefully not the end of this ride. You've taken the 5th gen platform to places not many others have, you're bound to hit a few bumps in the road. Good luck and hope to hear she's running at full power soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Best of luck. These cars are certainly a pain in the ass sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 It's going be some time fellas before I dive into it. My mind is elsewhere at the moment. Appreciate the support!! Everyone will be updated when the diagnosis takes place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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