dmanaenk Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I can assure you maybe not in a year but the BRZ will become available with a boosted version in the not TOO distant future and I would be shocked if it didn't get around the 300hp mark stock. Maybe a ~240ish by MY16, for mid-$30k, and I'd give less than 20% of this happening. 300HP stock? No way. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I'll hope your wrong. Thing feels so painfully slow so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. Or maybe honda will finally come out with a good s2000 replacement that has some more power stock. Finding it impossible to find an upgrade to my S2000 for under 50 grand even used. WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I hope I'm wrong too, I just don't see it happening with current emissions/CAFE fuel efficiency requirements. Maybe with some kind of performance-oriented hybrid tech or electric. But that's more than 2-3 years away for sub-$40k market. Finding it impossible to find an upgrade to my S2000 for under 50 grand even used. Keep it. Or get a newer CR trim. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yeah someone will do it I just hope sooner rather than later. CR's are nice but besides being newer it would be a big downgrade unless I got all same or better parts for the CR I have on my AP1. WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Regardless of what a Cayman S competitor BRZ/FRS would cost, why would they build it? The only new, cheap, small RWD sports cars available in the US are the BRZ/FRS and the Miata. If there are others, feel free to add them to the discussion, but regardless it is a short list. If you want a larger and more powerful RWD coupe, you can buy a Mustang / Camaro / 370Z. If you want to spend significantly more money, you can buy a Cayman / Corvette / the list goes on and on and gets much more expensive. My point is this: where is this car positioned in the market? Why would Subaru or Toyota build a car that essentially has no competitors for its size, performance, and price point? If the OEMs aren't building it, then they have decided that there is no market for it, and that they will not make any money. In the end, this what dictates nearly everything in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Genesis Coupe is right there too, although Miata or BRZ is a better value IMHO. All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Genesis is definitely heavier but much faster. WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Also much number to drive. Might as well add all the 'performance sedans' to the mix too. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/05/toyota-gt86-convertible-on-indefinite-hold/ Bad news, sportscar fans. According to a new report from What Car?, Toyota has cancelled plans to produce a GT86 convertible, a model based on the FT-86 Open Concept that debuted at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show. In truth, Toyota never actually confirmed it would produce the budget-friendly droptop in the first place, but rumors have been flying since last year and Toyota reportedly showed its embattled Scion dealers a FR-S version of the convertible in August. Presumably, this means that a lidless variant of the Subaru BRZ is not in the cards, either. The reason for the move is unknown, though What Car? reports "one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86's ethos of light weight and agile handling." It doesn't look like that work will happen anytime soon, as "sources now say that the car has now been delayed indefinitely, with no place in Toyota's product plan in either 2014 or 2015." Still holding out hope? What Car? says the project could be "fast-tracked" if management decides it wants to reboot the program down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Also much number to drive. Is that the going excuse for the 86 being slow these days? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 That's good news no convertible. Hopefully they'll put the time and money into a turbo version sooner! WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 If you wanted a convertible BRZ, Mazda has been making it for almost a quarter of a decade. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbtech Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I think the topless BRZ is a much nicer looking car than the Miata. The Miata is for women and men who think they are women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Miata is a great car. Can become incredible track cars very easily! WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brprs Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Really the only way to go about this is an H6 opposed to the turbo four or a higher HP n/a four. The only thing that's would be a downfall is the actual length of the engine throwing the weight distribution off a little and the extra weight. Anyone who's driven a flat six powered car will tell you how well they operate and how smooth they are. That paired with a already great chassis is the way to go. No if, ands or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Really the only way to go about this is an H6 opposed to the turbo four or a higher HP n/a four. The only thing that's would be a downfall is the actual length of the engine throwing the weight distribution off a little and the extra weight. Anyone who's driven a flat six powered car will tell you how well they operate and how smooth they are. That paired with a already great chassis is the way to go. No if, ands or buts. Will that still get 33mpg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brprs Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 That I don't know, who buys an sti trimmed Subaru for good mpg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 That I don't know, who buys an sti trimmed Subaru for good mpg? Spc2125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moddiction Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Caring about mpg with a performance car just seems silly. The less mpg I'm getting the more fun I'm having. WWW.MODDICTION.COM Moddiction Stainless steel and Titanium shift knobs. Drivetrain, suspension, brakes, exhaust, cooling, fuel, gauges+MUCH more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Anyone who's driven a flat six powered car will tell you how well they operate and how smooth they are. That paired with a already great chassis is the way to go. No if, ands or buts. I'd love an H6 in a BRZ. But it would require a least a rear-mounted transmission. Otherwise the weight distribution is gonna suck. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Caring about mpg with a performance car just seems silly. The less mpg I'm getting the more fun I'm having. The less money i spend on gas, the more money I have for hookers. The more hookers I have, the happier I am. Therefore mpg->happiness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brprs Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'd love an H6 in a BRZ. But it would require a least a rear-mounted transmission. Otherwise the weight distribution is gonna suck. Please, explain why it would need a rear mount trans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Weight balance. As is, the BRZ is already nose-heavy. ~55/45. H6 is not only two more cylinders, but more torque, so a lot of other components mounted up front will have to be beefed up. I doubt it could be made to handle good w/o something major being moved to the back. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Weight balance. As is, the BRZ is already nose-heavy. ~55/45. H6 is not only two more cylinders, but more torque, so a lot of other components mounted up front will have to be beefed up. I doubt it could be made to handle good w/o something major being moved to the back. It's always possible to move the battery to the back. And since it's RWD it's also possible to move the gearbox, which is a classic "trick" that has been used more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spc2125 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 My guess is it will just get bigger displacement. Most likely a 2.5l Im getting a WRB Limited (yes i know, how original) in the Spring. Unless the concept WRX keeps about 85% of its original concept... we shall find out in Novemeber when its rumored to be revealed in the Los Angelos Auto Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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