dmanaenk Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think it's very difficult for those of us addicted to the torque of turbo 4's to give it up. It's easier than it seems. Once you have both cars and you get into your legacy - all you can feel is slop/floaty handling and a lot of input lag. Torque is the only nice thing performance-wise and it's fairly easy to give up when you get a lot in return. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Catalyst. Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Here is one with a 30R scroll down the page. http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08/engine-swaps-turbo-power-86-style-spotlights/ Holy crap, it fits... 30R? You mean EFR?I think the initial quote should have read 3.0R (red one has a 3.0 badge and a shoehorned EZ30 in the bay). Later there is a EFR Borg Warner kit on the amuse car. My spec.B [#163] Project Thread with Pictures Get CryoTuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Now I get it. The EZ30 sounds awesome in that car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Except for the angled rods being bad for a boosted engine. I'd rather have the 3.0 di turbo than a 3.6 running low boost. *I missed the destroking part of that comment. If boosting it - then I assume a complete reconstruction with serious rods so it can take a decent amount of rpm making "Red zone" the happy zone or something! Like this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVdme4ISq8Y]New Porsche 991 GT3. First Drive. - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 It's easier than it seems. Once you have both cars and you get into your legacy - all you can feel is slop/floaty handling and a lot of input lag. Torque is the only nice thing performance-wise and it's fairly easy to give up when you get a lot in return. I notice the same thing when switching between my E36 M and my LGT. The LGT feels like a barge compared to the M. The difference is the M has great responsiveness and torque at tip in. I don't think I could live with a BRZ day to day. It just feels like its dragging an anchor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 It's easier than it seems. Once you have both cars and you get into your legacy - all you can feel is slop/floaty handling and a lot of input lag. Torque is the only nice thing performance-wise and it's fairly easy to give up when you get a lot in return. Yup. I'd say the same thing between my 05LGT and my 06S2K. That and I often hit the rev limiter expecting a few more RPMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diode Dynamics Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 You guys should see how upset they were over on FT86club.com It was pretty cruel of Subaru to post a teaser and create such a huge let down for us. I was hoping they'd put some F/I parts in the catalog so we could mod our FR-S. Very sad indeed... Nick C. John C. Diode Dynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 It's easier than it seems. Once you have both cars and you get into your legacy - all you can feel is slop/floaty handling and a lot of input lag. Torque is the only nice thing performance-wise and it's fairly easy to give up when you get a lot in return. The main issue is the weight dist with the LGT. In order to get decent handling, you have to give up some in comfort and noise/vibration. I've spent quite a bit on my LGT and for the investment it is quite loud between the exhaust, trans mount and suspension. My tires are loud too. It's fun, and fast enough for me, but getting into the boxster is always a pleasure. When I had the miata I was always tickled when a good hook up at a redlight would let me surprise someone in the next lane. With the LGT, I don't want to attract attention in town, so more often than not a truck or auto car will get a roll on me easy enough. I don't have that issue with the boxster. It may not feel fast but it is quick, and a bunch of fun.. All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/21/toyota-86-most-likely-to-get-more-power-through-more-displacemen/ "The Sydney Morning Herald has spoken to Tetsuya Tada, chief engineer of the Toyota 86 (our version of it, the Scion FR-S, is pictured above), and they've been promised that more power is on the way. We've heard a lot of speculation about a more powerful Toyobaru since before the standard model was even launched. The only question now is how the power will be delivered, and among the engine concepts we've already heard about – turbo, supercharger, twin-charged, hybrid – is a new one: more displacement. Tada said that an engine with more displacement than the current coupe's 2.0 liters is being tested alongside a turbocharged and a hybrid-assisted motor. The SMH cites "inside sources" as saying the displacement option is the one likely to get the go-ahead, and suggests increased bore and stroke will see the engine grow to 2.5 liters, horsepower to about 250 – a 50-hp increase over the present car." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways the Seven Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Eh, they should've just gone with a direct-injection H6. -Brandon 2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 1981 Chevrolet C10 LWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Eh, they should've just gone with a direct-injection H6. It would work, and would also create a popular engine sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways the Seven Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Agreed! -Brandon 2007 Chevrolet Suburban LT3 1981 Chevrolet C10 LWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diode Dynamics Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I wish the BRZ/FRS had more of the classic Subie rumble...that and more power would make the twins such an amazing car Nick C. John C. Diode Dynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LGTLtd Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'm surprised they are looking at 2.5, I was actually expecting a 2.2 version. Hopefully they have learned their lessons on the EJ series concerning head gaskets when increasing bore and designed the block for a 2.5 from the get go. I'd like to see them bring the torque up in line with the other NA subaru engines. All I need now is a hill holder and a center passing light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well if no turbo is to be had, then I want a cheaper version of the kind of insanity Porsche offers with the GT3. Think a bit more displacement, titanium connecting rods, forged pistons, upgraded valves and springs, hotter cam. Put some heads on that can breath worth a shit too. Give us a $40K GT3 with a 9,000 RPM redline and 300hp or so. Make it sound like an angry rumbly boxer at idle, and a wailing chainsaw race car at full snort. Do it Subaru, stop being pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Sounds like you want a Super 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Officially the STi that Jalopnik and others are ranting about is "currently" being called the BRZ Ts Concept (STi) in Japan... My favorite comment on Jalopnik regarding the Ts: Subaru - "Oh. You wanted a turbo? Tough shit." [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diode Dynamics Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Hahahaha^^^ Nick C. John C. Diode Dynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Sounds like you want a Super 7. More or less a Super 7 with a roof, and some modern conveniences. Don't forget the barely street legal race car engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 A hardtop version of a Seven, with a Hartley V8 is damn near the top of my "omfg do want" list. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 A hardtop version of a Seven, with a Hartley V8 is damn near the top of my "omfg do want" list. I wonder if you could take this: http://www.hawkcars.co.uk/hf3000/index.html And put in engine/transmission from a decently powered FWD car. E.g.: Volvo B5254T2-R.Volvo B8444S.Honda J35A8.Honda K23A1.GM LP9 Turbo.Etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cww Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I wonder if you could take this: http://www.hawkcars.co.uk/hf3000/index.html I didn't know about these Hawk kits. Lancia Stratos http://bringatrailer.com/2011/09/20/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/ "the Alfa 164LS engine is a good modern replacement for the original 246 Dino engine. Other engines can be installed, although this kit has mounts intended for the Alfa V6. There have been Honda and Nissan V6′s, Honda 4′s, Ferrari 308/328 and 246 engines installed in other Hawks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brprs Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'd put a 4g63 in that mucka lucka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I didn't know about these Hawk kits. Lancia Stratos http://bringatrailer.com/2011/09/20/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/ "the Alfa 164LS engine is a good modern replacement for the original 246 Dino engine. Other engines can be installed, although this kit has mounts intended for the Alfa V6. There have been Honda and Nissan V6′s, Honda 4′s, Ferrari 308/328 and 246 engines installed in other Hawks." Looks like a project for frank_ster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I didn't know about these Hawk kits. Lancia Stratos http://bringatrailer.com/2011/09/20/bat-exclusive-1997-hawk-hf3000-lancia-stratos-kit/ "the Alfa 164LS engine is a good modern replacement for the original 246 Dino engine. Other engines can be installed, although this kit has mounts intended for the Alfa V6. There have been Honda and Nissan V6′s, Honda 4′s, Ferrari 308/328 and 246 engines installed in other Hawks." Wonder if an LSx would fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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