TheOneDoubleN Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Kelleners has a N20 piggyback out and Burger has a tuning solution too. In the 328i both make just under 300 crank hp, not whp. Tuning for the 320 basically brings it up to the 328i's stock level. 300+whp here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?3370-N20-328i-JB4-Dyno-Testing-New-World-Record-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 300+whp here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?3370-N20-328i-JB4-Dyno-Testing-New-World-Record-) I should have specified 93 reflash only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Not bad, they're saying it'll likely be closer to stage 1 on pump gas (vs E85) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Took an X6 4.4L in trade this week. What a piece of shit. The only BMW worthy of me owning is the 3 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I kinda like the X1 (xDrive35), but I'm a ways away from a new car for better/worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katalyst Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 HPFP is a concern for sure. Its kind of amusing how much the BMW owners complain on their boards over cost of ownership. I would say one of twenty pick up a wrench, which is pathetic. The ones that do, say they are actually pretty easy to work on. i've worked on a few E46s with my buddies, the layout and assembly is very logical and therefore working on them for modifications is usually pretty straight forward. the only thing that was difficult was changing exhaust headers on an XI model since the front drive shafts really impede the work space and trying to wrestle those things in place was a f*@#! pain. we also didn't quite have enough extensions for the ratchets so we ended up in super awkward positions trying to get the header bolts off. but i also helped another friend change his water pump on his B6 series Audi A4, for that, i wanted to murder someone. we were swearing all day and night working on that, it was ridiculous how labor intensive it was. after that i decided i would never purchase an older audi because of how difficult it was to work on. i'd probably only consider one on lease brand new with a maintenance package so i wouldn't have to experience any of that ridiculousness again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted March 30, 2013 Mega Users Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm sure once the ECU coding is cracked we'll know. Look for Dinan to come out with something soon. I would look elsewhere. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I find the warranty attractive, plus the dealership I worked for sold Dinan packages and tuning. Never observed any issues with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 8-series or bust. They haven't made the 8 series for over ten years I wanted to like the 135 but at the end of the day, for daily driving, the 7spd DCT is horrible when trying to start off. There were times I would hit the gas and nothing happened for a full 2 count, and then the car would rocket forward. The 8spd AT's are not smooth or fast either. And you can't feel a thing through the steering wheel now. I love the DCT, but can see what you mean about the gas being slightly delayed. I'm not sure if they all come with the sport button, but the one I have does and it changes the throttle response nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't drive in stop and go traffic so the foibles of a DCT in such operating conditions are meaningless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't drive in stop and go traffic so the foibles of a DCT in such operating conditions are meaningless to me. I love it because you get the best of both worlds. Lightning quick shifting and no clutch pedal like an AT, but with added strength of an MT and the ability to drop the clutch for a burn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 335d is where it's at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I find the warranty attractive, plus the dealership I worked for sold Dinan packages and tuning. Never observed any issues with them. The dinan is very attractive for that reason alone. But I have read that it's fairly conservative. I'm really waiting for Cobb to release the AP for the 2013 135i. The other option is the JB4, but it's a piggy back. And I guess as of like 2008/2009, BMW has hidden tuner codes that can track what your doing. So they will see things like the motor making more then stock boost. Basically the ECU throws an error code, but you never know until you go to the stealership. I like the ability to flash and unflash the ecu with the AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would rather have durable, trouble free HP gains than unreliable mods that detract from the overall usefulness of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would rather have durable, trouble free HP gains than unreliable mods that detract from the overall usefulness of the car. Yet you post on a Subaru forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Point...set...match! Well played DODC. *golfclap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would rather have durable, trouble free HP gains than unreliable mods that detract from the overall usefulness of the car. 4 years of warranty would be a lot to lose over 20hp because I didn't choose Dinan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Exactly. That is a lot of coin to drop on a car, and then have it blow up with no warranty for a few extra HP on a dyno plot that you'd never actually see any gain from on the road. Are the Dinan packages more expensive? You bet your ass they are. On the other hand Dinan has been in the business for a long time, and they know how to make durable power, and will back it up with warranty coverage. I don't see any other "tuners" offering to cover repair costs if there are problems with the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted April 1, 2013 Mega Users Share Posted April 1, 2013 I find the warranty attractive, plus the dealership I worked for sold Dinan packages and tuning. Never observed any issues with them. Yes the warranty is attractive. The price isn't. What's nice is that Dinan includes the whole package, tune and coverage, which is nice. You get what you pay. My friend had his M6 tuned for $550, a lot cheaper. But, no warranty coverage. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yes the warranty is attractive. The price isn't. What's nice is that Dinan includes the whole package, tune and coverage, which is nice. You get what you pay. My friend had his M6 tuned for $550, a lot cheaper. But, no warranty coverage. I was gonna call your friend cheap for driving a car that starts at $108,000 and not wanting to spend the extra $1500 for the tune with warranty, but when I looked at their website, I seen that dinan doesn't offer a tune for the M6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted April 1, 2013 Mega Users Share Posted April 1, 2013 I was gonna call your friend cheap for driving a car that starts at $108,000 and not wanting to spend the extra $1500 for the tune with warranty, but when I looked at their website, I seen that dinan doesn't offer a tune for the M6. Its a 2007, which he paid 48k for. The Dinan tunes are $2999, along with factory warranty match. He no have warranty, he no need Dinan. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Its a 2007, which he paid 48k for. The Dinan tunes are $2999, along with factory warranty match. He no have warranty, he no need Dinan. That's a lot of money to pay for a car with no warranty. Anyways, Dinan doesn't have tunes that increase power for the M6. So you need to go elsewhere anyways http://www.dinancars.com/shop/index.aspx?series=M-Series&model=M6#page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted April 1, 2013 Mega Users Share Posted April 1, 2013 That's a lot of money to pay for a car with no warranty. I agree. But, very low risk to a very high reward for me:). "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I agree. But, very low risk to a very high reward for me:). until those fix it bills start coming in. I'm okay with having something like that for a second car. But that's ghetto if you chose that for a DD if that's your only car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users paintpollz Posted April 1, 2013 Mega Users Share Posted April 1, 2013 I agree. But, very low risk to a very high reward for me:). until those fix it bills start coming in. . exactly, I won't be paying them. "Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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