Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 My mouth lives 1/4 mile at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I do understand the potential benefits of a front splitter for front end downforce, just not sure that a non adjustable unit like the OP's would generate enough to be worth the effort. Or the OP didn't show how it is adjusted. Snow plow jokes aside, it could theoretically work. I just have to make snow plow jokes because it is big enough to plow snow with and the OP lives in Michigan where he has plenty of opportunities to plow snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 More than a handful of us have played with fabricating our own intake heat-shields and IC sprayers. Both have been datalogged to noticeably lower IAT, but I don't believe that anyone ever tried to quantify road/track performance numbers from such improvements. IIRC, one member even made a cold-air scoop that was integrated into the front splash-undertray. Again, similar IAT decreases, but I don't believe that member ever tried to quantify performance gains, either. These were all more S&G type of mods, pursued out of sheer love for the car and the desire to just do something special for it. I also remember members here - back when the AEM CAI for the BL/BP was popular, self-modding the filter area with things like a plastic flower pot to keep moisture away from the MAF. This certainly worked - because the alternative was the car sputering and throwing a CEL. I think KartRacerBoy, Xenonk, Paisan, TRS (these were just the names that came to me off the top of my head - I believe there were several others involved), and Myles of RCE/GTWORX, back in 2009, seriously discussed additional brake-ducting, too. And I forget who put the big wing on the trunk of a BL, back in the day. I think that without some seriously qualified driving - perhaps requiring the use of a "known name" test driver, kinda like how various car-rags/shows do their "tests" - it's going to be near impossible to quantify such aero mods. I remember that the rear wing also caused this sort of heated debate. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liljonson Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'll post and subscribe before op's thread gets closed for nonsense. His nonsense :thumbup: Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I once put a bunch of dry ice on my intercooler on a hot day. My mark 1 mod 0 buttocks dynamometer told me it was highly effective at cooling down charge air after the turbocharger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Then there's always dudeonacouch with his infamous "You should paint glittery pink fish graphics on it" At least spell my name right, numbnuts. It's not our fault that you're 19 and have no idea about diddlyfuckinganything, we just pointed it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I once put a bunch of dry ice on my intercooler on a hot day. My mark 1 mod 0 buttocks dynamometer told me it was highly effective at cooling down charge air after the turbocharger. Brought home a 10-lb. brick of dry-ice from the lab..... Flash-froze and mashed all sorts of things with my almost-7-year-old daughter. My wife told me to never bring home anything from the lab again, without having secured her prior written approval. :lol: Did not need any for my TMIC. It was 20 degrees out, that day, and I knew I wasn't going to encounter the PriusRacing crew on the way home. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 I do understand the potential benefits of a front splitter for front end downforce, just not sure that a non adjustable unit like the OP's would generate enough to be worth the effort. Or the OP didn't show how it is adjusted. Snow plow jokes aside, it could theoretically work. I just have to make snow plow jokes because it is big enough to plow snow with and the OP lives in Michigan where he has plenty of opportunities to plow snow. Apparently you didn't read the original post you decided to pound me on with your unbelievable wit and rapier like dialogue. The front splitter is completely adjustable for height and angle with spacers that I've made that are simply inserts and in about 10 minutes, I can change it in several different directions, depending on head of the day, ride height, track I'm at, and tires I'm running. It doesn't take much to change the angle but generally, it's better to have it almost parallel with the flat ground. A very slight tip downwards at the front helps. As I had told someone in a PM, I've driven cars that work and cars that don't. A car that works is easy to drive fast and a car that doesn't work is a nightmare to drive fast. My changes are geared at making the car work the best. I'm absolute sure I could be a better, more consistent, and faster driver, at least with these cars but I will continue to make what I deem improvements on the car until I find out that I've gone the wrong direction. Once I reach that point, I will then backtrack and make changes in another direction. My reason for the splitter is that I drove a BMW 3 series that worked pretty well without a splitter. The next track day, the owner showed up with a 3/8" thick splitter custom made on the front of his car-no other changes, just the splitter. He let me drive it and it was noticeably better and he stated to me that it was the best single mod he ever made. My splitter is a contour copy of his splitter in the way it fits around the body/bumper cover line and it mounts the same 1.5" below the bumper cover as his. I sealed up the sides where the red is because his was sealed up and then took the car to the track. You can call it what you want-increase/decrease, but I am not quite 2 seconds faster than I was on the same track, same tires, pretty close to the same kind of day, no other changes. I may end up trimming the splitter as I get some new tires in the spring. It's a work in progress but it's making forward progress, something the "screw the garage door seal on the front of my car" crowd can't say. I don't do things for looks, I do them for function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now be honest, you do some things for looks too. I mean you do have stripes and such on it. Not that I have anything against stripes or splitters, hell I have a serious case of lust for a Mustang BOSS 302 Laguna Seca which has a huge front splitter and garish stripes and graphics all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now be honest, you do some things for looks too. I mean you do have stripes and such on it. Not that I have anything against stripes or splitters, hell I have a serious case of lust for a Mustang BOSS 302 Laguna Seca which has a huge front splitter and garish stripes and graphics all over it. Absolute honesty here. The splitter is painted from underneath through the clear lexan. The stripes were my wife's idea and if that's what it takes to make her happy about the car, then it's the smallest price to pay. I put the slashes on the front fender (tape, NOT paint) in order to incorporate the stripes into something so that they would at least have some integration. But frankly, I really don't do much for looks. I did paint the grille after cutting out the wings, but it looked pretty lousy with the bondo in the corners. It IS still a very nice car (81K) and I'm not going to abuse it. Every thing I've done is easily removable with no lasting effects (except of course for the grille) and I have all stock parts for the engine bay as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipsterDoofus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 A new thread doesn't make your car look any less stupid. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 A new thread doesn't make your car look any less stupid. Food for thought. THERE HE IS. I was wondering what happened to you. Your inane comments add so much. LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The key is that you are laughing your ass off. Have a sense of humor, we wouldn't be flipping you shit if we didn't think you could take it. I mean damn man, we're poking fun at your car a little. Not like we told you that your wife is ugly, and that we want to take liberties with your daughter. Do you have a daughter though? If so is she 18 or older, and can we see pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 suspension mods? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'll share an innovation I came up with that was and is completely awesome. While in Iraq we would sometimes have to piss in 1.5L water bottles, since stopping to take a leak while pulling escort duty was a no-go. Now say you find yourself in a town full of surly stubborn Iraqis that don't want to get out of the way, and you happen to be driving a Humvee with a fording kit as most USMC Humvees do. This means you have a big tall exhaust pipe that exits at about head height on the driver's side. Did you know that if you pour 1.5L of piss down that pipe that the motor will not die? Did you also know that the piss won't spray out at idle? Now, did you also know that when given the beans there's enough exhaust pressure to spray piss and diesel soot all over said surly Iraqis? Almost as satisfying as shooting them, but to do that they have to be more than surly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 I remember your post. Sorry I didn't respond then. I have the following mods currently: 25mm Perrin sways F&R with heim joint end links ASpec strut tower bars F&R Rear Perrin Sway Bar Supports Energy Suspension PU bushings everyplace I could find to put them in the rear Whiteline Rear Differential mount PU bushings Whiteline front rack and pinion PU bushings Happening soon: BC Racing coilovers Whiteline LCA-all bushings Haven't decided exactly on what else after that although I'm leaning on tying the subframes together F&R with Cusco or AVO kits Transmission and engine mounts (possibly but low on the list now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Nice looking lady. I would probably take that pic down though, it is bound to get abused on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Nice looking lady. I would probably take that pic down though, it is bound to get abused on here. You are most likely correct. I did it to prove to dudeonDacouch that I'm not 19...LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now he'll just make fun of you for being old instead, because this is an internet forum and that is what we do. Ha ha ha. You'll be wanting to get to know a member here by the name of Bosco, he's an octogenarian just like you. You guys can talk about your favorite Metamucil drinks and debate the merits of various denture adhesives. He also owns a pretty nice C6 Corvette so we're all mildly jealous of his old ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 I'll share an innovation I came up with that was and is completely awesome. While in Iraq we would sometimes have to piss in 1.5L water bottles, since stopping to take a leak while pulling escort duty was a no-go. Now say you find yourself in a town full of surly stubborn Iraqis that don't want to get out of the way, and you happen to be driving a Humvee with a fording kit as most USMC Humvees do. This means you have a big tall exhaust pipe that exits at about head height on the driver's side. Did you know that if you pour 1.5L of piss down that pipe that the motor will not die? Did you also know that the piss won't spray out at idle? Now, did you also know that when given the beans there's enough exhaust pressure to spray piss and diesel soot all over said surly Iraqis? Almost as satisfying as shooting them, but to do that they have to be more than surly. By the way, (holding my hand out to shake), thank you for your service to this country. I travel a lot for work and go through Atlanta on many trips and I shake the hands of as many servicepeople as I can and thank them for all they do. I've given up my seat on a plane for a military person going home so they could get to their family on a couple of occasions and will do it again if the need arises. Irregardless of what the current administration thinks, our servicepeople are the MOST important people in this country. Everyone WISHES their car was 1/10 as fast as this car. Group 7 slotcars are the fastest motorsport in the world. The other photo is the motor which weighs 13 grams, has a 17 turns of 24 wire armature balanced to .00001 grams, and produces almost 1/3 horsepower at between 230000 and 250000 rpm. The current world's record for these cars going around a track like in this link [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVR2esJNjPI]Group 7 Slot Car - Australian Nationals - Rockhampton 2010 - YouTube[/ame] is 1.358 seconds and the track is 155' in length with 6 corners. Enjoy the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hard to believe I've been out now for a little over 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 By the way, (holding my hand out to shake), thank you for your service to this country. I travel a lot for work and go through Atlanta on many trips and I shake the hands of as many servicepeople as I can and thank them for all they do. I've given up my seat on a plane for a military person going home so they could get to their family on a couple of occasions and will do it again if the need arises. Irregardless of what the current administration thinks, our servicepeople are the MOST important people in this country. Everyone WISHES their car was 1/10 as fast as this car. Group 7 slotcars are the fastest motorsport in the world. The other photo is the motor which weighs 13 grams, has a 17 turns of 24 wire armature balanced to .00001 grams, and produces almost 1/3 horsepower at between 230000 and 250000 rpm. The current world's record for these cars going around a track like in this link is 1.358 seconds and the track is 155' in length with 6 corners. Enjoy the video. Don't suppose you'd mind souping up some AC traction motors on some locomotives for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Don't suppose you'd mind souping up some AC traction motors on some locomotives for me? What do you want them to do? Go faster or have more torque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Don't suppose you'd mind souping up some AC traction motors on some locomotives for me? Actually, I know very little about model trains. Are the motors removable from them or are they integrated in and part of the actual train body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I don't think you understand, I mean the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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