frank_ster Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 The Subaru diesel I thought was cleaner than vw by some thig I read and saw. I could be wrong tho I don't think vw has tdi4 motion option I would get that if it existed Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 1 may be true in a sense, for a manufacturer to sell a car here even if the gas has passed crash testing, the Diesel model still has to be also. Subaru may not think it's worth the cost. Cleanest by what standard? It currently doesn't meet US standards which are the most stringent. VW sell plenty of TDI, but it has a following, hopefully Subaru will see the numbers VW are selling and realize none of them are the 4 motion models. I've read plenty of VW TDI owner say that if Subaru sold a TDI they'd jump ship in a heart beat for the AWD. Notice that the standards only states the worst permitted case, not the actual implemented case for a vehicle. It all depends on what the regulations says when it comes to crash testing and then the measuring of emissions. But I suspect that the main point behind the diesel not being on the US market is the lack of an automatic gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 But I suspect that the main point behind the diesel not being on the US market is the lack of an automatic gearbox. ^ I also believe that plays indeed a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fj1200 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Cleanest by what standard? It currently doesn't meet US standards which are the most stringent. Didn't I hear that the Euro's will be upping their standards to be on par with the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Also for the mt comment The new legacy gt are only availiable manual trans Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamifanatic Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 x2 i really hope they do release a diesel legacy, the car would be killer, pair that with an sti adjustable differential and i would have one in the garage for sure Also for the mt comment The new legacy gt are only availiable manual trans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 We should make a list of people who would buy them and send that to Subaru of America Say here is 250 people who would Buy Subaru diesel tomorow. And more to come I would put a deposit sign my name what else could try want ? I know 250 is maybe a small number but it's a start ! If its not enough how many signatures do they want ? I'll go door to door to get more if I have to Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We should make a list of people who would buy them and send that to Subaru of America Say here is 250 people who would Buy Subaru diesel tomorow. And more to come I would put a deposit sign my name what else could try want ? I know 250 is maybe a small number but it's a start ! If its not enough how many signatures do they want ? I'll go door to door to get more if I have to They don't need a petition, all they have to do is look at VWs numbers. Now add the fact that VW no longer has the Passat wagon here and the Jetta sport wagon TDI is selling really well without AWD. It's really a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 yep 50 mpg ... http://www.subaru.de/fileadmin/downloads/modelle/legacy/PreiseDaten/Legacy_2012_10_08FINAL.pdf Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 yep 50 mpg ... http://www.subaru.de/fileadmin/downloads/modelle/legacy/PreiseDaten/Legacy_2012_10_08FINAL.pdf ^ It's just crazy that a 2.5i fully loaded over there is slightly more expensive than a diesel! France is about the same too: http://subaru.fr/img/documentation/Tarifs_Subaru_France.pdf Just stupid expensive IMO. Gotta love taxes.. And the one that tops it all I think (I could be wrong): http://subaru.no/prisliste.html (85000 USD for a 2.0i Legacy and 90486 USD for 2.0d outback). wow, just wow. No wonder why they don't sell STIs. Sorry went on a tangent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Norway is extremely expensive. No wonder that Norwegians pass the border to Sweden for some cheap shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Norway is extremely expensive. No wonder that Norwegians pass the border to Sweden for some cheap shopping. Yes brother. I lived there for two years driving my USDM OBXT. You should have seen the faces of some people when they saw me driving a turboed outback . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well also the diesel version also has faster rated 0-60 speed than the 2.5i Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well also the diesel version also has faster rated 0-60 speed than the 2.5i Yeah I saw that too. That's probably thanks to the 250 lbs of torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o1legacygt Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You can take me off the list of 250 for a diesel Legacy. I should be securing 2013 VW Passat SEL Premium tonight for about 32k out the door.... I will be very sad to no longer be a Subaru customer, but they no longer have a car that puts a smile on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You can take me off the list of 250 for a diesel Legacy. I should be securing 2013 VW Passat SEL Premium tonight for about 32k out the door.... I will be very sad to no longer be a Subaru customer, but they no longer have a car that puts a smile on my face. Even with a stage 2 lgt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You can take me off the list of 250 for a diesel Legacy. I should be securing 2013 VW Passat SEL Premium tonight for about 32k out the door.... I will be very sad to no longer be a Subaru customer, but they no longer have a car that puts a smile on my face. Maybe you'll find yourself back on the list after you've had it a while. I did enjoy our Jetta, but VWs many little 'quirks' got old after a while. If I want to tinker with a car constantly, it'll be 60's vintage, not my daily driver. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobieSteve Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-Forester-EE20-Turbo-Diesel-Engine-ECU-Wiring-2011-ONLY-12-MILES-L-K-/170917701306?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27cb7d26ba&vxp=mtr There You Go Buy It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 there is a us guy who is allready importing them for less than that Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 And brand new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahoseman Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 there is a us guy who is allready importing them for less than that Yep, as was already listed in the thread http://boxeer.com/ And he offers his "STi Diesel" that he's created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEVENN Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Here in France, 75% of new cars are diesels! It's because of gas price: 2.20$/liter for 98, 1.75$ for diesel... (that's why I'm using E85 on my 3.0r SpecB..., 1.23$/liter...) I had a try with a Forester diesel: it's a quite good engine, with more reactivity than others diesel engines. But it's still a diesel: noise, smell, low RPM... And it's seems quite fragile, I saw few posts with trouble on diesels sometimes, even if Subaru France doesn't sell much cars (less than 1500 cars last year in France, for 60 millions of frog eaters!!!: prices are huge: 64.000$ for STI S, 54.000$ for Legacy SW 2.0d or 2.5i. No more WRX, no LGT... Legacy were just sold with 2.0d, 2.5i, 3.0r, and now with 3.6r in Outback: http://www.subaru.fr/documentation.asp?rubrique=tarifs). Friends on a french Subaru forum seems to be happy with their Impreza, forester, Legacy and XV diesel, due to low fuel consumption, about 7 liter/100km, and softness. If I should have your fuel prices, I'd buy a 2.5 turbo Legacy (never sold in France...), with few engine mods, to have torque and high rpm... And if I was an Aussie, I'd drive a 2007 3.0r bi-turbo Liberty Spec B!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolime1221 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 probably not because diesel isn't subsidized in the US like it is in Europe thats why all the Euro counties have everyone driving around in higher mpg diesels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnysmoke Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Long time lurker, first time poster... Anyways, I'd also like a Legacy wagon with diesel, and would gladly trade in the '12 2.5 Outback 6 speed I got last winter in a heartbeat, and would gladly pay more per month for it. I traded a '02 wrx wagon for the Outback, trying to be a good responsible newly married type, and really wish I had kept the wrx. Had that car for 10 years, loved the way it drove, and really would prefer something like the '05 Legacy wagon gt to get into, instead of a mushy slow Outback. The new Mazda CX-5, especially in diesel, seems like it's gonna be a better option than the Outback. If I had the extra cash on hand I'd pop in a diesel motor and drop the suspension on the Outback, but I don't, and can't. Don't know why Subaru lured me into the family with the sweet little awd wrx, then left me stranded with no other options than an Outback? Wish they would make something bigger than the wrx wagon that was still fun to drive... end of rant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Well after watching the info piece on the new Forester at http://www.subaru.com/auto-show/la-2012.html. We can forget getting a diesel anytime soon. It was one of the last questions asked toward the end of the video. Basically sounded like it came down to cost and Subaru wanting to stay at a certain price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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