mumblinaviator Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 He Da Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBGuy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 1st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 bornnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn in the usaaaaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 You screwed up, just admit it and move on. No, the truth is that the vast majority of people in car modification communities simply repeat what other people tell them, without having any sort of true understanding. The "cut springs bad" myth started in the 90's, from what I recall. People were massively cutting springs or torching them to acheive a ~3" drop. Obviously this is not going to work well, and people identified cut springs as entirely wrong, which is far from the reality. Truth is, if the spring will still sit properly when cut, it is very easy to calculate the new length, spring rate and drop for a certain cut. Cutting a 1/4 coil is a very minor and virtually unnoticeable change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 robert hooke is gunna beat your ass with a K constant hombre Fail out of engineering school much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 actually no, i graduated sigma cum laude try to turn your subaru into a honda much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 He graduated from Wentworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowImg Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Pictars of the spring when finished? Curious how you altered it to make it fit well into the seat after cutting it, since the bottom and top are formed to the perches. Is there enough length still to stay seated when the suspension is at full droop? A lot of lowering springs suffer from jumping out of the perch from it. Do you not notice the change in spring rate balance F/R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strizzy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Calling Dr. BAencyclopediaC5.2. My bad luck build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did you learn about springs.....? So, get out your textbox, measure a subaru strut spring, and figure out what cutting a 1/4 coil off the bottom is going to do. I dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Calling Dr. BAencyclopediaC5.2. I already pm'ed him with a link. Awaiting the chris brown of beat downs coming within this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Did you learn about springs.....? So, get out your textbox, measure a subaru strut spring, and figure out what cutting a 1/4 coil off the bottom is going to do. I dare you. It's going to cause you to hit the bump stop quicker, that's what it's going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I also cut my springs a while back in my spec.B, car rides like a unicorn that has explosive diarrhea I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 ^^ I almost spit my coffee out my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowImg Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I also cut my springs a while back in my spec.B, car rides like a unicorn that has explosive diarrhea For those of us who haven't gotten our unicorn physics degree, can you elaborate on the math of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/106/7/9/This_unicorn_poops_rainbows_by_kaylynh1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 In for unicorn math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapture Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 so the lesson here is do not feed ur unicorn chocolate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlack-V Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 For those of us who haven't gotten our unicorn physics degree, can you elaborate on the math of this? http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-how-unicorn-math-made-goldmans-cdos-excellent-buy ^ this and because racecar I was 0. And I'm still a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Pictars of the spring when finished? Curious how you altered it to make it fit well into the seat after cutting it, since the bottom and top are formed to the perches. Is there enough length still to stay seated when the suspension is at full droop? A lot of lowering springs suffer from jumping out of the perch from it. Do you not notice the change in spring rate balance F/R? Great questions. - I just cut it off. There is roughtly a 3/4 coil of semi dead spring at the bottom when free. Plently to cut and still have it sit fine. - I had to compress the spring 3" with spring compressors and a impact wrench to get the hats back on. So, yes. At full droop there is nearly a full coil seated, and it seats cleanly. - Entirely unnoticeable, it's less than a 5% change in rate, tough to say exactly because it's basicly dead spring being cut off. So call it 0% to 5% change. If you have "dead coils" (coils that are fully compressed when on car and weighted) to cut on a progressive spring, you will not be changing the main spring rate. In this case, it is a seemingly dead coil I am shortening, so that there is really no effective change in rate, but I can't say that conclusively. If you were to shorten a fully active coil by a 1/4 coil, you would increase the rate by about 5%. Hence the estimate. BTW, most percieved increases in spring rate from "proper lowering springs" are from the car being on the bump stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx045 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So, the unicorn is an efficient converter of chocolate to rainbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHolladay23 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Maybe we need to stop giving him crap in case he decides to cut us next! http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1318428572365_1239673.png [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] You want stickers? Hit me up here!!! You want a shirt? Hit me up here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardo420 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 did this increase spool at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapture Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 how u see that as efficient? its puking wayy more than its digesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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