ShadowImg Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 You should be fine as far as insurance goes. The only way you would have issues there is if your modifications somehow caused it, or caused you/someone bodily harm, etc. Something that would be excessively expensive and your fault. To ShrinerMonkey - lift off oversteer is in no way Subaru specific. It's Physics lift off oversteer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 To ShrinerMonkey - lift off oversteer is in no way Subaru specific. It's Physics lift off oversteer. Yep, I learned that lesson back in my 1985 300ZX. Had the car a few months when I came over a small rise and found a couple of guys working in my side of the road. Glad is had a sports car... 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chutrain Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Seeing that you had the car modded, what do you have suspension wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 First, I don't think your car is totaled. Dude, if the poster has already admitted that may have contributed to the incident then there's no reason to harp on it. The poster is in touch with reality. Give him a chance to come up with a solution for himself. the OP may have admitted after the fact that he is not absolved from blame, but perhaps a change in thread title is in order .... Mmmkay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlBlueGT Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Is that even possible, unless you have studded tires ? This is when you need to know how to drive in unsafe conditions. Slow down. Use your head. I told my son before he got his license. In bad conditions, It's about getting there, not getting there first. Yes, you can sipe any tire. I have my truck tires siped and my Mazda tires siped (Falken Azenis 912) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Marker Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I actually turned my car to try and throw out the rear to teach myself to keep my foot on the gas. That is the only way to let the car do what it has to do. A very weird sensation! Glad you're OK. Just run it through insurance and let them handle it. That's why you pay for it. 2011 Volvo S60T6 & 2013 Volvo XC60T6 Polestar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Subject line needs changing. I think insurance will cover the car as is. Nothing 'caused you to loose control but yourself. I've put the car to the limit and found it to be very balanced. I think the video you posted reflects how not to drive the car. I suspect the tester is off throttle instead of staying on throttle. It's a common mistake in a dangerous situation. When the back breaks loose you have no grip to slow down the only think you can do is get going where you wont hit anything. Glad you're ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 This was already covered. Thank you very much for the kind comment. Also, I found this video by consumer reports. I am in no way to cover up my driver fault, I'm just sharing what I came across. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/video-hub/cars/sedans--hatchbacks/subaru-legacy-2008-review/14684540001/1352465487/ Chris yes ok so because people like you cars suck .. when you fix your car .. please remove the rear sway bar so you can crash head on in to the next obstacle if i had to drive a car what the back end never came out i would have to commit suicide. but for you and 90 year old ladys yes the rear sway bar should be removed. my girlfriend likes the oversteer of her wagon and so does i. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I can't say I've ever had this car over steer b/c I lifted off. And trust me I've tried. Power-on oversteer in the rain (completely stock car)? Absolutely. Lift off oversteer. Never. Nothing but grip, even in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Alignment influences lift-off oversteer more than almost anything else. Removing the rear bar won't eliminate oversteer. I didn't have one in my Forester and I could make that car dance. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I've had the car oversteer under hard throttle before, and like someone else said, it was very progressive, and minor. What was NOT progressive and minor was my bad driver correction, When I felt the oversteer, I lifted off the throttle, and BAM, lift off oversteer. Luckily, I was able to re-correct before anything bad really happened. Lesson learned, and now I'm a better driver because of it. BTW, OP, with a title like " Symmetrical AWD Screwed Me Over... Totaled??" did you really expect people to just come in and not say anything about your blaming the AWD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedz Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Subarus are notorious for lift off oversteer. Plus when not on throttle your rear different is useless. I like using that lift off to rotate None f this power on I've noticed in a turn when I start understeering I lift slightly it gets the rear a Tiny loose but its always manageable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landark Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Your insurance company will cover the damages, you can put whatever you want on the car, they'll cover you. As someone stated earlier, if you have aftermarket parts that get damaged, they may not cover the full cost of the replacement. If they are functional parts, they owe you the cost of the stock replacement part - often times stock mechanical parts cost the insurance company more than aftermarket "upgrades." The issue of aftermarket parts comes into play more when there is theft involved. As far as total vs. not, it depends on what's going on underneath. I don't like how far over the hood is cut. That tells me it must have gone through a lot of the internals to get there. But I'm optimistic that it's not totaled. And as I always remind people, buying back your car from the salvage company is generally not a good idea. And the metal wire is called a "guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I read that legacy GT understeer like FWD pics, not oversteer like RWD racecar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Alignment influences lift-off oversteer more than almost anything else. Removing the rear bar won't eliminate oversteer. I didn't have one in my Forester and I could make that car dance. did you take it out ? or did it not come with one ? lots of cars don't have them to balance them to not have over steer. disconnect yours and see what it becomes. that lil coat hanger changes a lot. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanazteck261 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yes, you can sipe any tire. I have my truck tires siped and my Mazda tires siped (Falken Azenis 912) Not trying to start a war. Not saying you shouldn't sipe. I did not know anything about siping so I looked it up. This is an interesting read. http://www.komonews.com/news/archive/4168146.html?m=y&smobile=y&c=y Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think the moral of the story is when in doubt, throttle out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 did you take it out ? or did it not come with one ? lots of cars don't have them to balance them to not have over steer. disconnect yours and see what it becomes. that lil coat hanger changes a lot. I took it out. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtbimmer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 This wouldnt have happened if you had installed some plastic brembo caliper covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnoon Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Edited the OP with engine bay pics. It's true, my title is out f line, I guess i was just angry about my car :/ sorry guys Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_bobby Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Situation sucks. Glad your okay, and the car can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AShoe Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Dude, if the poster has already admitted that may have contributed to the incident then there's no reason to harp on it. The poster is in touch with reality. Give him a chance to come up with a solution for himself. the OP may have admitted after the fact that he is not absolved from blame, but perhaps a change in thread title is in order .... Mmmkay? I was commenting on the title of the thread solely. Symmetrical AWD did not cause the accident. Don't everybody go and get your panties all up in a bunch. :rolleyes: I'd estimate $4800 in damage, as long as the front crash beam is straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This was already covered. Thank you very much for the kind comment. Also, I found this video by consumer reports. I am in no way to cover up my driver fault, I'm just sharing what I came across. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/video-hub/cars/sedans--hatchbacks/subaru-legacy-2008-review/14684540001/1352465487/ Chris lol how fast is that guy going to do that on DRY asphalt wow!! That's in a n/a tooo wow!! All my car does in the dry is understeer, but that guys is fricken ken block in that 2.5i!!!!!! He was trying so hard to resist smiling!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggerheist Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 start running autox, thatll fix ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/video-hub/cars/sedans--hatchbacks/subaru-wrx-sti-review/14684540001/1740023216/ and look at this 2008 sti he says it under steers legacy 2.5i > sti !!!! Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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