Gelacy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 That ad just made me throw up. Are you sure that's not just another one of your weight loss excuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelacy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 New BRZ Ad. Yelling Scene Father: WAIT! Yosuke: Try and stop me! (I think...) Father: What's wrong?! Yosuke: (shouts something incomprehensible to my foreign ears) Father: GET OUT! He yelled something I believe that was somewhere along the lines of "worthless father" or old man but a bit more filled with anger and slang. I think it was a nice compliment to the Father and Daughter (U.S. version) Subaru Legacy commercial. If Subaru catered to the stereotypical "car enthusiasts" audience, it wouldn't be a Japanese commercial from Subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted February 6, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted February 6, 2012 Are you sure that's not just another one of your weight loss excuses? Uhhh. What? U calling me fat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelacy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Uhhh. What? U calling me fat? Not everyone who vomits habitually in attempt to lose weight is automatically obese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted February 6, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lol. Well I only vomit occasionally, and it has nothing to do with losing weight and everything to do with habitual beer consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm really glad that this thread is getting away from whiney fanboys kvetching about this car being rwd and NA. It really seems like the brz is a great car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm really glad that this thread is getting away from whiney fanboys kvetching about this car being rwd and NA. It really seems like the brz is a great car. I'm sure it will be a wonderful, slow, car. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm sure it will be a wonderful, slow, car. A 2700 lb 200 hp car may seem slow to most of the guys on this forum who have 300-400 hp, but to most people this will be a pretty quick and fun car to drive. The average car weighs more than this and is heavier, plus most cars these days are FWD. It's nice to see more RWD cars coming back, and if it can be fun to drive and get around 30 mpg then it can make a better dd than an LGT whenever there isn't snow on the ground.....it's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 LOL, I meant has less hp and is heavier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 A 2700 lb 200 hp car may seem slow to most of the guys on this forum who have 300-400 hp, but to most people this will be a pretty quick and fun car to drive. The average car weighs more than this and is heavier, plus most cars these days are FWD. It's nice to see more RWD cars coming back, and if it can be fun to drive and get around 30 mpg then it can make a better dd than an LGT whenever there isn't snow on the ground.....it's all relative. This will be a great, slow car. Nothing wrong with being slow, though most in this thread seems to get awfully hurt about that comment. It'll just be slow. If you are looking for a great handling coupe, and don't care that it'll be slow, then this will be great. I'll wait for a fast version before looking into it. Considering the "fast isn't the point" fanboys in this thread, when they are released they should be pretty easy to get. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boymk123 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DAHFQnyX0C0 this is how the BRZ does it, so stop yap yap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 That is a lot of e-brake action! Not really impressive, or any indicator of performance. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelwatts Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 nope. now i guess nissan will need to bring out a "250sx" or some other silvia type platform. I'm a native of South Carolina. I am a dying breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 It would def be pretty awesome if they brought a silvia over here, a 300 hp rwd turbo 4 cyl, even if it was 250 as to not mess with Z sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Then again, even if it was 300 hp, it wouldnt be too different than the maxima/altima relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 It would def be pretty awesome if they brought a silvia over here, a 300 hp rwd turbo 4 cyl, even if it was 250 as to not mess with Z sales. Dude that would be crazy if that happened. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'd get on board with the BRZ if it had 270-300hp and no direct injection. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'd get on board with the BRZ if it had 270-300hp and no direct injection. What's your issue with direct injection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Lack of expansion, mostly. HPFP's are expensive, and getting high pressure AND high flow is even more expensive. So to modify a DI engine, you are forced to either sacrifice some fuel pressure and decrease efficiency, run secondary injectors in a port-injection configuration, which sucks, or cough up big bucks to do it "right". Not to mention, DI injectors aren't cheap and are limited in their ability to handle high cylinder pressures. A port-injection setup is less efficient, but it also costs much less to improve. For those interested in power modification, it's as simple as a new pump and new injectors. From an engineering standpoint, DI is much better. But it deters the aftermarket from heavy support which makes power modifications more expensive in general. It's nothing against DI, just that I'd prefer port-injection to keep aftermarket costs lower and potential of the platform higher. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Lack of expansion, mostly. HPFP's are expensive, and getting high pressure AND high flow is even more expensive. So to modify a DI engine, you are forced to either sacrifice some fuel pressure and decrease efficiency, run secondary injectors in a port-injection configuration, which sucks, or cough up big bucks to do it "right". Not to mention, DI injectors aren't cheap and are limited in their ability to handle high cylinder pressures. A port-injection setup is less efficient, but it also costs much less to improve. For those interested in power modification, it's as simple as a new pump and new injectors. From an engineering standpoint, DI is much better. But it deters the aftermarket from heavy support which makes power modifications more expensive in general. It's nothing against DI, just that I'd prefer port-injection to keep aftermarket costs lower and potential of the platform higher. Well, you're in luck. The FA20 uses Toyota's D4S system which has both Direct injectors AND Port injectors. Modders can increase the duty cycles and/or size of the port injectors to meet higher fuel needs. It'll mean a bit more work for the ECU guys, but should offer a lot of flexibility. A nice side benefit of the D4S setup is that it should keep intake valve buildup to a minimum, unlike the Audi and Porsche systems that need regular upper end cleanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 In the FA20, only DI operates at high RPM. PI turns off. I foresee it being a tuning nightmare. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 In the FA20, only DI operates at high RPM. PI turns off. I foresee it being a tuning nightmare. We'll see. It will depend on how it's handled and how open the ECU is. It might just be a matter of changing the fuel tables for the PI. Or, you could be right and the PI cutoff can't be modified like throttle hang-time. But we don't know yet. The potential is there for it to be a great tuner's engine when the turbo version is brought to the table. Only the future will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwm5094 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think the car looks good. I sat in one at the auto show here in D.C. Other than the seats and steering wheel, the car screams cheap. The buttons suck as well as the plastic interior trim pieces. Reminded me of my tc but of course its just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We'll see. It will depend on how it's handled and how open the ECU is. It might just be a matter of changing the fuel tables for the PI. Or, you could be right and the PI cutoff can't be modified like throttle hang-time. But we don't know yet. The potential is there for it to be a great tuner's engine when the turbo version is brought to the table. Only the future will tell. I think the best bet, will be disabling direct injection for those that modify significantly (aftermarket turbo kits and things like that). It greatly depends on the PI injector drivers in the ECU. They may or may not be able to handle running ONLY PI across the entire rev range. Lets hope the turbo model leaves more on the table than the N/A is going to. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Why disable the DI instead of just adding to it with bigger injectors for the PI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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