AZP Installs Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 We used the mcmaster-carr tubing on our last install. So far no complains yet. -mike http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/141039922.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/137566671.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. AIM: AZP Installs | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.2971 | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito_b0y Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I think I may have solved my problem: Have you installed any type of RSB bracket? I had creaking/squeaking going over bumps slowly and going up my driveway after I installed brackets. I did a lot of searching and trouble shooting and found it to be the rubber mounts on the rear sub frame assembly. I've circled and pointed an arrow to what I am referring to. Sorry for borrowing your pic Highspeed: http://john-r-coughlin.com/pictures/rubber.jpg Just take that apart, clean it real good with some WD40, wipe it dry, and put a good amount of Energy Suspension grease on there. Thats what stopped it for me. Seems like if dirt and crap get inbetween the rubber bushing and the metal support, it creaks. Good luck and I hope that helps! -John !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John, that was it!!! That's what was causing the creaking sound! I got the noise down significantly just by hitting it with some silicone spray from the outside. Awesome find! First time in years that I was able to back out my driveway without that creak-creak!! Thank you! BTW, how difficult was it to remove that rear support arm to get to that bushing? Do you need to put the vehicle up on jack stands? I hit my rear subframe mounts with some Kroil a few times the past week and the creaking is now 99% gone. I still have to remove them completely to clean and grease them up properly, but even then I don't hear anything when I have my music playing; I had to blast my music before. Anyway, before you shell out some money for a different set of springs, try this out first. Good luck! 2006 SWP 3.0R 5EAT VDC BBQ 2008 OBP 2.5i 4EAT BBQ [RIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdd Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I do have an RSB bracket on those. My noise has not come back, but I'll give it a try if it does. It's odd though that greasing the springs takes the noise away if it is the bracket/bushing contact point causing the noise. I've noticed that placing my hand on the spring lets me feel the creak. Try that out in the middle of the spring and on that bushing before you take it apart. I would myself, but it is doing it now. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyWilly Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 My squeaking went away when I greased the rubber spacers on top of the front and rear springs. I just hope it lasts for a while before I have to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Well just got a great deal on a used set of koni/ epics. Just in case, lubbing up springs w napa silicon grease and home depot wire loom. So far one more to go. Here a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackhore Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 wow, that's a liberal application of grease. No noises from my rear springs using the home depot wire loom and no lubrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Just in case there both lubed and wrapped. Taking off the bcs coilovers, soon for sale. I hoping for no noises. These have the clear spring insulation. The newer ones are black. If this doesnt work gonna spray em with rubberized wheel well spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 So far so good with my instal and no noise for me with regular set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_phil Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 So I finally installed my Konis/Epics two weeks ago, and the rears have been squeaking non-stop ever since. I even thought that maybe I didn't tighten something, so I went back and checked everything, all is up to spec. I'm just wondering, could it be the saggy butt shims? Has anybody had this issue without them? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrw Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 IIRC it's the coils of the spring rubbing against each other. I think the guys over at AZP found a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackhore Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 So I finally installed my Konis/Epics two weeks ago, and the rears have been squeaking non-stop ever since. I even thought that maybe I didn't tighten something, so I went back and checked everything, all is up to spec. I'm just wondering, could it be the saggy butt shims? Has anybody had this issue without them? Thanks! Have you read this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 IIRC it's the coils of the spring rubbing against each other. I think the guys over at AZP found a solution. Yup we have been using the tubing from Grainger and it has stopped the squeaking. -Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/141039922.jpg%5Dhttp://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/137566671.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. AIM: AZP Installs | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_phil Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Have you read this thread? I searched, am I supposed to read too? :-) Seriously though, you either grease them or wrap them, but either one is a workaround, not a true fix. There are people who didn't have to do any of this, are you saying they are all deaf? Didn't Epic test these springs before selling them? I'm just trying to see if there's something common among the people who are having the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkonmonk Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I had the exact same issue with my Ralliteks, no noise until I installed my Konis on the rear. I finally used the wire loom idea and no more squeaking. It has been about a month so far, so good. As a side note, I also installed the wire loom on the front springs to fix some rattling noise I had since install no matter the front struts (OEM or Koni). Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Any long term updates? Has the simple plastic tube solved it once and for all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdd Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Still noise free here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Any long term updates? Has the simple plastic tube solved it once and for all? We have done the fix using the sleeve material from grainger on several customer cars and have not had any complaints so far. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We have done the fix using the sleeve material from grainger on several customer cars and have not had any complaints so far. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Perfect. My springs showed up yesterday and while my Koni's are on back order for another week or so, they will be here soon enough. I'll be calling on you guys shortly to get it all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Perfect. My springs showed up yesterday and while my Koni's are on back order for another week or so, they will be here soon enough. I'll be calling on you guys shortly to get it all said and done. Cool, looking forward to it. -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Call directly as We carry almost every manufacturer now, so before you buy parts call us. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) | T-1 Certified Amsoil Direct Jobber |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need bb Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Any updates on this? Mike do you know what make/model of sleeve material you are buying at Grainger? I have a feeling if I go to my local store they are going to give me 100 different options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Any updates on this? Mike do you know what make/model of sleeve material you are buying at Grainger? I have a feeling if I go to my local store they are going to give me 100 different options Sorry it's McMaster-Carr. Item# 5236K482 -Mike Paisan http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/91072632.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/145749898/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/paisan/image/133406601.jpg http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/logos/perf1.jpg 11+ Years Maintaining, Modifying and Educating TriState Subaru Enthusiasts. Like us on Facebook! | E-mail: sales@azpinstalls.com | 725 Fairfield Ave | Kenilworth, NJ 07033 | 908.248.AZP1 (2971) |AIM: AZP Installs "Race Tested, Enthusiast Approved!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Found something on some Lexus forum that might be a good alternative to the hose: Tein Silencing Rubbers They are basically the same thing as what comes on the spring. If you put one on every over coil, it will prevent metal-metal contact while taking up half the space. Medium (90-130mm) is the correct size for our application. http://i.imgur.com/fbn3UjM.jpg Ordered three pairs, but you could probably get away with two. Will report back on how this does once they are on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I just did a search on this the other day because my Epic/Koni setup is making the chirpy sound thanks for the info And they are split, does that mean you can put them on without removing spring or does the spring have to come off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utc_pyro Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 In theory you should be abel to. Putting them on off the car was extreamly easy, they just snap around the coil from the outside. There is a light glue inside that holds them once in place. That said, the place where then end of the spring impacts the next coil looks like a likley noise spot (see pic). Getting it on that last coil would be tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BX77 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What website did you purchase them from Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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