soloz2 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I was just going to ask if there is a recommended spring that will keep stock ride height on a legacy sedan, or if stock springs with Konis is a good combination. Current: 16 Crosstrek Premium w/ Eyesight & 05 Outback XT 5MT Past Subies: 14 FXT Premium, 14 WRX hatch, 06 Legacy 2.5i SE 5MT, 98 Outback wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Stock keeps stock height. Konis are super adjustable from softer than OEM to stiffer. So, they will work with any spring. Outbacks can use KYBGR2's to retain stock height and get a slight upgrade over stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I find the idea great m sprank. A few questions to you: Why should someone do this vs. going with RCE Tarmac Coilovers (for example) for a few hundred more? Is it possible to get a more robust top-hat with the unit, or is the stock top hat desirable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Stock top hat is best option. RCE cost $1850 standard price. It is more than a few dollars more. Plus, it is massive overkill for 90% of owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I already have Cobb springs on my car and I'm looking at buying Koni's. How much would you be asking for just the struts in the OEM housings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Mike, Thank you for offering this service. I also have been considering this, but was intimidated by the install. I have a question. Would you be purchasing front inserts and rear shocks as a set and shipping all 4 units with Epics or would I have to take care of the rear konis and epics myself. The Epics come in a set of 4 (front and rear). Just wondering how this will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sorry for any confusion. I would be including front and rear. Fully assembled. My intention is for the end user to simply remove 7 bolts/nuts on each side up front (three top hat, one brake line, one ABS line, two at knuckle) and three bolts/nuts from the rear (two top hat, one at shock eye). Simple as possible. All I need in return as a core is the front struts minus springs and the rear tophat and spring perch (dont need strut or spring). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hi Sprank, Good to know on the RCE's - I had the number $1350 in my head for some reason, so apologies for the confusion on my part. Also good to know on the top hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I do like RCE's no doubt. But they are about $1850 assembled. There might be a sale where the price is slightly less, that is up to RCE. I get lots of questions about the Konis and do install plenty of them. But seems like those that are not local get a little timid about the install. Just thought this might make it more reasonable and available to members. I am not going to get rich at $150 in labor per set, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demo243 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Definitely going to have to keep this in mind for the springtime... I really want to do suspension this spring/summer but coilovers are overkill, and konis scared me at first, but something this simple sound pretty great. Curious on how the epic springs work on a wagon... I dont believe I saw anything earlier in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I have yet to install Epics on a Wagon personally. They do not offer a wago spevific spring like Swift does. But I would imagine it is a decent combo. If there were any rear sag, it could be removed easily with a small shim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Great idea Mike! I can highly recommend this combination. Even on a wagon. I've got the Eibach springs on the Koni dampers with a 1/4" shim in the back. Love the ride. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I can supply the 1/4 shim installed (sitting on top hat (LOL) with the kit as well. I have access to the shims. I also know the proper stud for replacing the rear studs if using 3/8 or 1/2 spacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdd Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 goneskiian - thanks for including that info. Does the 1/4" shim give you an even stance, or do you find yourself wishing you'd went 3/8"? m -what would be the cost including the shims & necessary hardware? Thanks, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 $1100 delivered to CON US. Koni with Epic. Full bolt in package. Plus $150 core fee. Refunded when I get your OEM's back. Need everything but front and rear springs and rear struts. So total is $1250 up front. $150 is refunded. I anticipate you spending $40-$50 to ship back to me. Should put total at $1150. I see that as $850 for the parts. $150 for the labor and $100 for shipping to you. Add $40 for shims and longer rear studs (proper size and thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 goneskiian - thanks for including that info. Does the 1/4" shim give you an even stance, or do you find yourself wishing you'd went 3/8"? m -what would be the cost including the shims & necessary hardware? Thanks, Matt. You betcha! I think it gives a really even stance. Even enough to have not pulled them and added the 3/8's spacers I have collecting dust in my garage! Links to posts with pictures of the Eibach/Koni set up on my wagon... http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2660793&postcount=173 http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2782590&postcount=202 Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 So who makes Epic springs? Did I miss that somewhere? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Isn't Epic the name of the company? Epic Engineering? This is a pretty cool idea. Koni's aren't a terribly hard install, but not having to take the time to do it is worth a few extra bucks. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Epic is made my Eibach. It is the Eibach Pro-Kit re-branded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobynut Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Thanks, goneskiian, those are the first pictures I've seen of a wagon with the koni/epic 1/4" spacer combo and believe me, I've wasted many a enjoyable hour searching for pictures. MSprank, I will be hitting you up soon for this service. I'm off to Costa Rica for a week tomorrow so I will wait 'til I get back to contact you. I just bought a nice '07 GT wagon and am very impressed overall (coming from a '02 WRX wagon which I still have and still love), except for the Buick-style bounces after hitting smooth 'dips' on the highway. Seriously, my WRX wagon on original struts at 172k miles has much better rebound control than the 32k mile Legacy. Unacceptable -- even to an old fart like myself. As others have said, thank you for offering this service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvento Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I'm just going koni thing alone the only thing is way back in the day bosal was not so good O.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am tired. Did I miss something??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I'm just going koni thing alone the only thing is way back in the day bosal was not so good O.K. - clarification please. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hi Mike. I sent you a PM about your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoobie Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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