Dujo Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 So, unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your questions, but I do know that there is a big thread out there on the forum that talks all about the differences between the Legacy and Outback suspension. I'll bet if you can track that down, it will answer most of your questions about modifying it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Hey left out the most important demographic; lesbians I guess I'll just keep it stock height, until I get a second car and figure out if I want to go get it lifted or go LGT height with Konis or Blistiens. If I went the Koni route, could I use my OBXT struts and cut them to fit Koni's or would I need to find a set of LGT ones? Lesbians drive Foresters. LOL. I drive one and have been called out on it before. Thats ok, I like being a Lesbian. :lol: Konis will not fit your OBXT struts. You would need LGT donors for the front inserts. Just today I pulled a set of clapped out Bilstein/lowering springs from an 08 OBXT and installed KYB GR2 (LGT) with OEM LGT (wagon) front and rear springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I drive a Forester too, and I am a true taco loving lesbian. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyle409 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Lesbians drive Foresters. LOL. I drive one and have been called out on it before. Thats ok, I like being a Lesbian. :lol: Konis will not fit your OBXT struts. You would need LGT donors for the front inserts. Just today I pulled a set of clapped out Bilstein/lowering springs from an 08 OBXT and installed KYB GR2 (LGT) with OEM LGT (wagon) front and rear springs. That is a good point, however I do recall seeing top 5 cars lesbians drive and the outback was on there yet the forester was #1 no doubt I need to replace my front struts soon however I don't want to go lower than stock so I guess I'll just replace them with OEM KYB, the KYB GR2 would be an upgrade or are they the same; would it be strange to only replace the fronts with GR2 and have the rears be regular (as I replaced them about 10k ago and don't want to replace em if I don't need to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 KYB is the OE source for Subaru struts. The GR2 are the KYB "aftermarket" replacement part. The GR2 are valved approximately 10% stiffer than the OEM units. This is because KYB anticipates other suspension components being worn when the struts are replaced. It should not be any issue to run OEM rears and GR2 fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linksusmaximus Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 In anyone's experience - would there be any issues installing the KYB OEM Front struts (PNs 339222 and 339223, which are recommended for the '10-'12 MYs) on a 2013? Looking to pull the trigger on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 In anyone's experience - would there be any issues installing the KYB OEM Front struts (PNs 339222 and 339223, which are recommended for the '10-'12 MYs) on a 2013? Looking to pull the trigger on this. For Koni inserts? If yes, then no issues. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housemusic1 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Anybody here running the Koni sport kit on their 05-09 Outback? I currently have the Legacy suspension in my Outback, but it's got about 100K on it. I have the opportunity to purchase the full plug and play sport kit that Infamous was selling a while back. Just looking for opinions. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 The sport kit is literally the same Koni shocks/inserts and H&R springs, just packaged together by Koni. You still need to install the front cartridges into the strut bodies, and assemble the springs onto the shocks/struts with upper mounts and perches, unless IPT was offering that service. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housemusic1 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 The sport kit is literally the same Koni shocks/inserts and H&R springs, just packaged together by Koni. You still need to install the front cartridges into the strut bodies, and assemble the springs onto the shocks/struts with upper mounts and perches, unless IPT was offering that service. I should've clarified, these are coming out of a Legacy GT because the owner is selling the vehicle, and wants to de-mod it prior to sale. They are plug & play, ready to go. 1K miles on the setup. I know some people have liked this setup on their Legacy GT wagon, but I'm not finding too many people running this on their Outback. Nonetheless, it should be a huge improvement from my Legacy suspension with 100K on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The sport kit is literally the same Koni shocks/inserts and H&R springs, just packaged together by Koni. You still need to install the front cartridges into the strut bodies, and assemble the springs onto the shocks/struts with upper mounts and perches, unless IPT was offering that service. I have not sold assembled set ups for a few years. My cores kept failing to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geofff Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone have any issues with the rear being too high? I haven't let the springs settle, but especially compared to the front it looks like the rear is lifted. There is a 2 finger gap in the front and I can fit my whole fist in the rear. I'll get an exact measurement tomorrow but something definitely seems off. The sport kit I have is sku: 1140 1671 with h and r springsm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geofff Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone have any issues with the rear springs? I have a 2 finger gap in the front but in the rear I can fit 5 fingers. Springs haven't settled yet but this still seems way too high. I have the kit with h and r springs sku: 1140 1671 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsurge Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Did you drive it around yet? It's been a while, but are the rear top hats and spring perches installed in the correct orientation? Do you have any photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZP Installs Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone have any issues with the rear springs? I have a 2 finger gap in the front but in the rear I can fit 5 fingers. Springs haven't settled yet but this still seems way too high. I have the kit with h and r springs sku: 1140 1671 The lower perches are likely inverted on your struts. This pushes the springs up too high.... -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geofff Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Did you drive it around yet? It's been a while, but are the rear top hats and spring perches installed in the correct orientation? Do you have any photos? I have driven it about 30 miles. when I got the car back it looked off and assumed it needed to settle and on the way home I realized that even taking that into account it is still very high. I didn't actually install these myself - I had a friend of a friend do it. Here are some pictures just to confirm the perches are inverted. Rear: http://i.imgur.com/eBvtQ2G.jpg Front: http://i.imgur.com/1PqAP2C.jpg Side view: http://i.imgur.com/qHc6UmW.jpg Spring: http://i.imgur.com/rVXLBXS.jpg I didn't have a tape measure with me, but with such a drastic difference in height I don't think you need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geofff Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The lower perches are likely inverted on your struts. This pushes the springs up too high.... -mike It definitely looks like thats the issue now that I look at it. I had a friend install them so Ill let him know. http://i.imgur.com/rVXLBXS.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 That spring perch needs to be flipped over. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geofff Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 It's getting fixed now. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonation Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Has been done many times. H&R are nice springs. Firmer than Epics. With the adjustable of the Koni, they can be dialed in nicely. The drop is lower than an Epic, but higher than a Swift or S-Tech. Is this still the case that the Epic is lowest in drop? I have an 05 LGTL 5mt wagon and I am looking for a minimal drop + konis. Maybe Epic and rear spacers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Is this still the case that the Epic is lowest in drop? I have an 05 LGTL 5mt wagon and I am looking for a minimal drop + konis. Maybe Epic and rear spacers? Epic is the most mild drop, but they are no longer available (new). H&R are still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-WOLF Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just installed my rear Koni's waiting until the weekend to install fronts. I'm using stock springs and my stock strut mounts. Strut mounts were never removed from the spring, I did them in a wall mount spring compressor, everything seems tight but I'm getting clunking coming from the rear that was never present before. Was worse on left side, made sure it was tightened down, now is worse on the right side. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Your strut shaft nut is loose? The top hats are not properly seated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAD-WOLF Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Your strut shaft nut is loose? The top hats are not properly seated? Good ideas, however I have triple checked the shaft nuts for tightness, and the strut mount was never removed from the top of the spring but that is something I will have to double check! The only thing I did out of the ordinary was use the stock flat washer then put on the koni lock washer, then put on the koni shaft nut. Thanks for the input by the way, these things perform amazingly and quite comfortably with the stock springs, that rattle just gets on your nerves rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Good ideas, however I have triple checked the shaft nuts for tightness, and the strut mount was never removed from the top of the spring but that is something I will have to double check! The only thing I did out of the ordinary was use the stock flat washer then put on the koni lock washer, then put on the koni shaft nut. Thanks for the input by the way, these things perform amazingly and quite comfortably with the stock springs, that rattle just gets on your nerves rather quickly. It has to be removed from the spring, there is no other way to change out shocks. Something is loose or not assembled properly. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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