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A friend of mine built his motor to be very rev happy. He can rev to 9500 is desired, but around 8750, his oil pressure starts to drop.

He destroked his 2.5 block with a 2.0 crank, sleeved the block, and bored it to bring his displacement back up to 2.5L. He made 610whp and 598wtq on the dyno yesterday. He's also running a massive HTA86. But he literally has a 5k RPM power band and can break the tires loose in 4th gear. That car is just plain scary.

 

 

Would love some more info and a dyno sheet for this if possible.

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Would love some more info and a dyno sheet for this if possible.

 

Stupidly long parts list that I'll have to get from him tomorrow. Here is his Dyno sheet from yesterday though.

his second pull he blew the coolant reservoir and had to end the run early. We thought he separated his heads again. He's pushing 35psi.

 

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/ddejaege/dyno05-06-12.jpg

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Here's a quick acceleration test. No, this was not done on an open road. I have access to a private airstrip. Yes, it's as fun as you think it would be. No, it's not like the Top Gear test course.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g86sMuYwR94]Acceleration - YouTube[/ame]

 

 

Note:

I had about 300+ lbs of extra weight in the car.

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Make the switch to E85. It's a whole new world. I told you about my buddies STi that made 580whp on E85 with that very same turbo.
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ID1600s are discontinued. I have a friend with 1400s from Five-O Motorsports with a flowchart that shows them flowing like 1600s.

 

Would you be able to point me in the direction of the fuel pump controller you mentioned?

 

Switching to E is something I would like to do within the next month.

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He bought a second fuel pump controller, split the control lines, and fed each pump from a separate controller (each pulling battery power, though, not trying to drive two pumps through stock wiring for one).

 

As for injectors:

 

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID2000.html

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how much was all of it? and what is front lsd, sorry im kind of new here

 

+1. This is good stuff.

 

Unfortunately, I'm sort of lazy and if I had to spend this amount of money, I'd just get a new car. Hahaha.

 

I only mod when OEM components need to be replaced.

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He bought a second fuel pump controller, split the control lines, and fed each pump from a separate controller (each pulling battery power, though, not trying to drive two pumps through stock wiring for one).

 

As for injectors:

 

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID2000.html

 

So just another OEM unit would be needed? Like this one? http://compare.ebay.com/like/280855097470?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

Along with a second Aeromotive 340 with dual in-tank pump setup like something from Full Blown?

 

Was your friend able to run pump93 when needed? My friend with his stupid big build is running strictly E85 with ID2000s. But he has an Aeromotive 340 feeding a surge tank with two Bosch 044's. Our tuner was saying something about the 32-bit ECU can't lower the injector pulse width enough to get the car to idle on pump93. But because E85 requires ~30% more fuel, the injectors can idle the car just fine.

 

I need to be able to run 93 when E isn't available, as I drive a lot.

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The car is tuned for pump gas, but I don't think he ever runs it.
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It depends on how you set it up. It's got it's own injector drivers and coil drivers, so you can do everything but run the A/C. It is, for all intents, a standalone.

 

He is running speed-density, too. The car idles like stock and drives around like stock. When you get on it, it'll rip your face off.

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So just another OEM unit would be needed? Like this one? http://compare.ebay.com/like/280855097470?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

Along with a second Aeromotive 340 with dual in-tank pump setup like something from Full Blown?

 

Was your friend able to run pump93 when needed? My friend with his stupid big build is running strictly E85 with ID2000s. But he has an Aeromotive 340 feeding a surge tank with two Bosch 044's. Our tuner was saying something about the 32-bit ECU can't lower the injector pulse width enough to get the car to idle on pump93. But because E85 requires ~30% more fuel, the injectors can idle the car just fine.

 

I need to be able to run 93 when E isn't available, as I drive a lot.

 

I am accessport tuned on ID2000's to run e85 and 93 and EFI logics got the car idling on 93 octane.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEqN_AKk4s&hd=1]Injector Dynamics 2200cc injectors stock ECU rock solid idle - YouTube[/ame]

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Very nice.

 

You might be able to get rid of that idle dip-and-recover bounce if you increase the throttle opening angle in the 0% column of the requested-torque-to-throttle-plate-angle table.

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12.3? I was hoping for more :spin:

 

I was too, but my clutch was acting up (slipping quite a bit, then semi welded itself to the flywheel, as I couldn't get into gear unless the car was off. (Which also makes for a fun time starting the car :spin:)).

Then yesterday the clutch finally gave out mid-shift 1st-2nd. I thought my trans dropped from the car.

I'm either going to rebuild this one, or try an ACT 6 puck.

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