korpsepatrol Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 For you DIY's that want to coat this exhaust this is how i did mine a while back. My X02 never had any signs of rust or bubbles and i live in albany ny where there is a perpetual layer of salt. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1764203&postcount=127 http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1766816&postcount=140 It might not make it bullet proof like swain coatings but it is definitely better than nothing. My x02 after 1 year never rusted just coating had one or two rock chips. 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I plan to coat my new exhaust but with clear vs black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I can Confirm that the piping, mufflers, and tips are made with 304SS. The hangers and flanges are not made of 304SS. The overall construction of the exhaust looks to be great. Is it made in the USA? I have no clue. So far no complaints and looks extremely nice. I will be putting it on my wagon this weekend and will keep everyone updated on fitment. CIMG0080.jpg picture by eddiesun - Photobucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Still looks like an XO2. Fit will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERZperformance Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 those ebay exhaust on ebay are not 304 stainless anymore, they are all 202 stainless or even 409 stainless now. the main reason is not that the factory can't use or will not use 304 stainless is that those ebay vendor will not pay $$$ for 304 stainless all those ebay vendor only care about is price and they are killing those factory overseas because they want the lowest price so factory how no choice to give them thin stainless, lower grade stainless, metal flange etc anyway they can cut cost and light weight of course. I have seen 5 pound ebay headers ( those Civic ones) I compare to a another brand (OBX not a great brand either but at least they don't cut corner all they do is copy and knock off other people stuff the whole industry hate them) their civic header same design was 13 pounds. 202 is a grade down, and 409 is even worst (rust in 6 month) you can't use a magnet to check this because both will not stick. I will ask my factory how can we tell if 202 and 409 stainless and give you guys a report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERZperformance Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Still looks like an XO2. Fit will tell. did you say Xo2 exhaust has a some fitment issue with the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERZperformance Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 if it has the same fitment issue basically exhaust was made with the same exhaust jigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 ^I know. We are waiting to see if the GMS has the same fittment issue. If so, it came out of the same fixture, same factory, not Made in USA (maybe the box is, lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 those ebay exhaust on ebay are not 304 stainless anymore, they are all 202 stainless or even 409 stainless now. 202 is a grade down, and 409 is even worst (rust in 6 month) you can't use a magnet to check this because both will not stick. I will ask my factory how can we tell if 202 and 409 stainless and give you guys a report. 409 Stainless can be told by a magnet since it only contains Chromium which makes it magnetic. The 202 will be almost impossible to tell the difference without sending it to a lab and having the metal analyzed. From what I was told by our engineers, the 202 is actually stronger than 304 but has slightly more corrosiveness. They said pricing is about the same between the two with 202 not fluctuating as much as 304 in prices which makes the 202 a little cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERZperformance Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 ^I know. We are waiting to see if the GMS has the same fittment issue. If so, it came out of the same fixture, same factory, not Made in USA (maybe the box is, lol). what fitment issue does the X02 exhaust has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doccrowley Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 what fitment issue does the X02 exhaust has Search please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacychick Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I installed the exhaust today, and the fit was pretty good. I had the most trouble lining up the driver's side muffler with the Y pipe flange. The tips were nice and centered until I tightened everything, then the moved inward a little. It was dark when I finished, so I'll take pics tomorrow. Sounds good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 I installed mine today. Funny, my passenger side gave me some problems. I didn't like the way the tips recessed into the bumper so I took it off and put my greddy back on. My car already shoots flames so I could see my rear bumper catching on fire. I might try and see how much it would cost for a muffler shop to extend the tips. I thought the sound was beautiful. A little louder than my Greddy SPII. It is not a bad exhaust if you have time to get it to fit perfect. Sorry, no pics or video because the wife was nagging me to take the kids out for lunch. One thing I did notice. start fromt he front and work your way to the back. Dont tighten anything down completely until you have it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hmmmm. Sound suspiciously like the CXLighting kits fit. Same factory? Same fixture? Made in America? Still waiting for pics. Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I installed mine today. Funny, my passenger side gave me some problems. I didn't like the way the tips recessed into the bumper so I took it off and put my greddy back on. My car already shoots flames so I could see my rear bumper catching on fire. I might try and see how much it would cost for a muffler shop to extend the tips. Yah, must be 'sedan fitment' although I thought lots of sedan owners thought the tips extended too much. I figured that mean they were more of a hybrid length. Look forward to seeing side profile pics. (but your Greddy is back on now?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yah, must be 'sedan fitment' although I thought lots of sedan owners thought the tips extended too much. I figured that mean they were more of a hybrid length. Look forward to seeing side profile pics. (but your Greddy is back on now?) Greddy is back on because the tips clear the bumper. The tips on the GMS exhaust went into the bumper so it would have probably burnt my bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 No worries - there are quite a few side profile pics of the xo2 on wagons. I just had to search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacychick Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Sorry for the dirty car, as you can see the weather hasn't allowed me to keep it clean. The tips are a little longer than I'd like, and I might tuck them up with some poly hangers. And I'm getting too old to crawl around under a car, I'm feeling it today! http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/legacychick/IMG_2703a.jpg http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/legacychick/IMG_2704a.jpg http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/legacychick/IMG_2705a.jpg http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/legacychick/IMG_2707a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 That is soooooooo the CXLighting/XO2 kit. That fits JUST like my CXLighting kit. I even posted pics already, lol. No friggin way that is Made in the USA. The jig/fixture lives in China, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05gtlimited300 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 They seem to extend further then the xo2 kit. Both tips seems relatively centered (not perfect) but are hanging so low. Im curious to see how the exhaust would fit if tucked/different length hangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hate to piss on the party. Check here:http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127753&page=3 post #39 for the evidence of NOT MADE IN AMERICA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hate to piss on the party. Check here: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127753&page=3 post #39 for the evidence of NOT MADE IN AMERICA. Dang dude, calm down...They retracted their claim that it was made in the US but they still claim it is 304SS. I would gladly pay a little extra cash knowing that Iw ould get awesome support from Importimage. Try to email cxlighting or xo2 with a quetion or problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 They retracted their claim that it was made in the US but they still claim it is 304SS. I would gladly pay a little extra cash knowing that Iw ould get awesome support from Importimage. Try to email cxlighting or xo2 with a quetion or problem. Where'd they retract the Made in the US part? GMS website still says "This baby is made of true Stainless steel right in the good ol' USA." http://www.gimmickmotorsports.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=6 Anyhow, we all knew deep down that it was the same... And it's true, cxlighting is poor for communication. I asked whether mine will have a resonator and I was told no but I have a hunch it will come with one... I'll know for sure this weekend when I pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDN 2.5i Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Best price on GMS branded exhaust is in their own GB on nasioc... http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1910255 $299 shipped - that's better than cxlighting's price. Catch is they need 10+ people. And there aren't many legacy peeps on nasioc. I would have bought through them if I had known about this deal before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacychick Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dang, wish I had seen that too. Oh well, I paid a little more, and I didn't have to wait. It shipped from Florida, you would think if it was made in China it would ship from Cali? My Megan Racing CBE was made in China and shipped from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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