fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 http://www.photodump.org/stored20/bpu_dyno.jpg (place holder for dyno graphs) ignore him, he'll go away.
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 Rich, as soon as enough donations come in, we'll book the time at P&L. I'll need enough to cover a brisket sammy as well. a mans gotta eat. ignore him, he'll go away.
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 I like sammys can we go to smoque? does a bear sh!t in the woods Mod lists for both? same cars, different color. ignore him, he'll go away.
PeterJMC Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 same cars, different color. That was mostly implied, but what mods are on the cars?
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 40BB : TD06-20G 10psi WG : 15psi WG Stock recirc : Stock recirc AEM CAI : AEM CAI Perrin TMIC : Perrin TMIC Stock TGV : Stock TGV SP WI, Stage 2 MAF, safe injection, washer fluid : SP WI, Stage 2 MAF, safe injection, washer fluid Stock mannifold : Stock mannifolds PDE catless flex UP : ??? catless fex UP Cobb catted DP : Cobb catted DP SPT V1 3"/2.5" catback : AVO 3" mid/ 2.5" Y-pipes, stock cans AVO fuel pump : Kenne Bell BAP Deatschwerks 740cc : Perrin modified AP V1 Protuned : AP V1 Street tuned Prodrive EBCS : Prodrive EBCS ignore him, he'll go away.
hammerhead Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 are you sure you put the right graph up? it's for a supra in 1999
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 are you sure you put the right graph up? it's for a supra in 1999That graph is a comical place holder for the real comparison to take place once enough funds have been collected. chum in the water. ignore him, he'll go away.
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rao Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Man that Supra boosts like a stock Legacy GT Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT
rc0032 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 :lol: Here we go again! I'm shutting up this time The point of this isnts about bench racing its about proof Pony up some $$
j255c Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 we all know the 20g will outshine the 40 on water/meth injection. Turn that off, ill bet they come close. 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater
rc0032 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 we all know the 20g will outshine the 40 on water/meth injection. Turn that off, ill bet they come close. Maybe you missed its the same setup but the turbo part of this thread
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 we all know the 20g will outshine the 40 on water/meth injection. Turn that off, ill bet they come close. I'll pour grape juice on the intercooler and sing rich's car a lullaby if you want to see what it does to whp. send donations to my paypal account and we'll get it done. ignore him, he'll go away.
j255c Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Maybe you missed its the same setup but the turbo part of this thread funny? 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater
integroid Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Maybe you missed its the same setup but the turbo part of this thread Not the same setup. The 40BB had a pro tune and the 20g had only a street tune? That can make a huge difference. Heck, I ahve seen a good tuner get 20+ HP from an e-tune on a stock turbo.
2005garnetGT Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 uhhh, I'd give the nod to the street tune thats been iterated hundreds of times over a 4 hour protune that isn't refined as much.
fweasel Posted February 7, 2008 Author Posted February 7, 2008 Not the same setup. The 40BB had a pro tune and the 20g had only a street tune? That can make a huge difference. Heck, I ahve seen a good tuner get 20+ HP from an e-tune on a stock turbo. what do e-tunes have anything to do with this? My protune was done by Jorge at P&L who traditionally does not tune near the bleeding edge of the performance envelope. Not to mention I specifically requested a daily driver, long life, conservative tune. RC's street tune on the other hand has been refined for almost a year. Not only has he done an excellent, methodical job on the tune, he started off with a good base from another, local, experienced street tuner. ignore him, he'll go away.
rc0032 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 what do e-tunes have anything to do with this? My protune was done by Jorge at P&L who traditionally does not tune near the bleeding edge of the performance envelope. Not to mention I specifically requested a daily driver, long life, conservative tune. RC's street tune on the other hand has been refined for almost a year. Not only has he done an excellent, methodical job on the tune, he started off with a good base from another, local, experienced street tuner. Hey TDC can do a better job :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
2005garnetGT Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 you silly bunnyman, TDC is the home of great t00ners oh wait, I meant to say abhorrent
bosco Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Rich, as soon as enough donations come in, we'll book the time at P&L. I'll need enough to cover a brisket sammy as well. a mans gotta eat. i'll buy the sammich's and refreshments for the pit crew let me know the day. we should get together at Route 66 on a test and tune day and see what two big hp cars will do maybe Rob would want to come too with his even bigger hp car. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy
2005garnetGT Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 seriously, the 40BB has an 18G compressor wheel... the 20G is bigger.. to deny that a 20G will make more power is to admit oneself a fool, because 44lb>40lb
j255c Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 i seriously dont understand why theres so much hate on this forum towards tdc. For this comparison, imo, you should do a run/tune on just pump, then a run on wi. TDC never claimed the 40bb would make more on racegas, which is the equivalent to what WI does. Furthermore, there are so many variables, ignition timing, different up-pipe, different agressive tunes that even on a dyno this wont solve the answer. Go to the ******* track, then driver is another variable. Whatever im done with this thread 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater
NSFW Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 seriously, the 40BB has an 18G compressor wheel... the 20G is bigger.. to deny that a 20G will make more power is to admit oneself a fool, because 44lb>40lb Yeah but a turbo isn't just a compressor you know. The 18G and 20G are typically paired with a TD05 or TD06 hotside housing. The 40bb, on the other hand, uses the VF40 housing, which is a huge benefit. You know, the VF40 hotside that everybody says chokes off the high-RPM performance of the stock system. It's complicated. But seriously, I'm looking forward to the results of this comparison.
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