incaman Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So the rumor is on almost all springs (Cobb, Rallitek, STI Pinks, Eibach) etc. and specifically with the Legacy GT's +2005 - that the rear tires will bottom out under hard cornering and braking as well as w/4 passengers. For those of you who are running 17's, 40 series, and Rallitek, has this been your experience? Please let me know cause there is a smoking deal on them now and would hate to pay for labor twice...thanks amigos- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTkansan Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Ill chime in soon. I have some on order that Ill hopefully be able to install over the weekend... yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryandigi Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I have not bottomed out yet under moderately hard braking or really hard accelerating...have not had 4 people in the car yet though either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiRA Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Has anybody tried these on a wagon? (5mt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Frankly after 75k of spirited driving when the opportinity presents itself, I wouldn't mess around with Spec.B suspension unless it was for a specific track with sponsor support for screwing around plus tires. OEM is a great solution. Kudos to Subie engineers. Nice job, boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 i ordered these springs last week and they are due to arrive on thursday. I'll post some pics when they are on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 how many of you got an alignment after installing these springs? is it needed? and what specs did you get the car aligned to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryandigi Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Everyone told me you need an alignment. I was pretty close to getting it right, but two of the tires were out of spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 You need an alignment, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 do you align it to stock specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallitek.com Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 ok sounds good thanks, springs come tomorrow and I'll hopefully have time this weekend to put them on and snap some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Has anybody tried these on a wagon? (5mt) Yes. Check the second page... http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpmarky Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Picked these up while they were on sale at rallitek, and just put them on this past weekend using some rented spring compressors from Autozone. Install was straightforward, but those manual spring compressors are a pain! +1 to all the previous comments - Great improvement over stock springs. Body roll decreased by 60-70%ish over stock, ride is very firm but not harsh. Highly recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin2000 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 yes I put these on last wed night. very straightforward install, however I used my buddy's lift and air tools so it went fast. I'll post pics after I take some pics this weekend. I also highly recommend these springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT4 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just ordered a set today. I have been using bilstein HD struts with new 2.5i wagon springs and all the other bits on my lgt wagon for about 1500 miles. Although the ride and handling improved over stock (30k miles on stock struts and springs), I am still getting some oscillation on the freeway over expansion joints that is bugging me. I hope these will eliminate that behavior and make it a bit more planted at highway speeds. I am going entirely off the sirsimon's reviews here so we shall see...hope it's not too stiff !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeguzik Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just ordered a set today. I have been using bilstein HD struts with new 2.5i wagon springs and all the other bits on my lgt wagon for about 1500 miles. Although the ride and handling improved over stock (30k miles on stock struts and springs), I am still getting some oscillation on the freeway over expansion joints that is bugging me. I hope these will eliminate that behavior and make it a bit more planted at highway speeds. I am going entirely off the sirsimon's reviews here so we shall see...hope it's not too stiff !! Just ordered a set too for my Spec.B, I probably won't get around for the install for some time. But I will report my findings after I get familiar with them. I can't wait to get rid of some of the slop in the stock suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallitek.com Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 We are excited to hear your feedback! Sean S. http://www.RalliTEK.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryandigi Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just ordered a set too for my Spec.B, I probably won't get around for the install for some time. But I will report my findings after I get familiar with them. I can't wait to get rid of some of the slop in the stock suspension. Performance wise they rock! I will caution you though, if you like an even look then these are not for you...myself and other members have found that with the specb tophats on the shocks you get a 4 finger gap up front and a 2 finger gap in the back. Not too bad, but not perfect by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT4 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Well, it can't look any worse than the 2.5i stock springs I crammed on to the bilsteins. I thought the 2.5i springs were going to be softer than the gt springs on my stock setup. Turns out, they are exactly the same from what I can tell. I don't care too much about looks anyway, I just want this car to drive right !! It appears that the rallitek springs don't need to compress as much as the stock springs since in the pictures they are shorter. I had to compress the stock springs quite a bit to get them on to the bilsteins, and it just didn't seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeguzik Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 We are excited to hear your feedback! Sean S. www.RalliTEK.com Sean, thanks for your help yesterday. That helped seal the deal for me. Once I get comfy with these, I will look you up for my next fix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTkansan Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I just installed my set too on stock shocks. Major improvement. Now I need to go get it aligned. Anyone have any recommendations for that? I know that the shops will have the 'stock' setup available, but something to help with the stock highway wander would be great. Great product though, even without an alignment they are fantastic. Still nice and smooth, and no bottoming out on serious dip like the stockers. I'm going to need to up my rear bar a bit to get my tail a little looser with all this newfound grip . Seriously though, what are the stock settings and whats the best anyone has that I can shoot for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT4 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just installed the Rallitek springs two days ago with bilstein hd struts on my lgt wagon. I don't know who designed these springs, but I want to extend my deepest gratitude to this person. This is nothing short of a miracle cure for the lgt. These springs with the bilsteins have improved the ride quality of my car dramatically. Yes, I said the ride quality!. Handling and control have also improved considerably over stock. The car is so smooth on the freeway now I am in complete shock. I keep driving it over sections of freeway and roads that should produce the familiar harshness and out of control nervousness, but it is absent. I havent found anything to upset this setup yet. I was very close to trading in my car because I was so discouraged by the ride quality after 30k. After spending a year or so reading countless reviews I did not have very high hopes of curing the problem, because all the after market setups appeared to be stiffer with higher spring rates etc. and you can really get lost comparing everyone's opionions on this forum. The primary goal of everyone seemed to be better handling with little concern for ride quality. (Or at least that is what it seemed like to me). By coincidence, I just got back today from LA where I was taken to lunch in the back of a brand new 7 series BMW over your typical crappy roads, and I can honestly say my LGT wagon has a better ride quality than this car. My car has a solid feel to it, and for some reason that is beyond all logic is tracking straight on the freeway at 75mph with stability that I never thought would be possible with this car. The nervous feeling of having to make infinite micro adjustments to the steering wheel is gone !!! There were gusty onshore side winds yesterday blowing 30mph+ and the car was not blowing all over the place on the highway like it has done in the past. I could hear the gusts and feel the wind pressure, but it was not moving the car off track. I have done a couple of other tweaks to improve the ride quality and straight line tracking which is part of the recipe, but I could not feel the benefits as much until I installed these springs: Tires: General exclaim UHP 225/50 r17 on stock rims with 32 psi front and 30 psi rear. Precision Alignment: Front camber = -.06 degrees on both sides Front caster = 4.6 degrees left and 4.8 degrees right (not very adjustable) Front Toe = 0.12 degrees left and 0.13 degrees right (yes this is toe in) Rear camber = -0.3 degrees left and -0.6 degrees right Rear toe = .02 degrees left and .03 degrees right (yes this is toe in) The tires combined with the alignment add to the straight line stablity and a feeling of a heavily weighted steering wheel. I never thought this was going to happen either... The tires have single ply sidewalls so they are softer than most performance tires, and the rubber is a very soft silicone compound. The result is that broken pavement, ruts, potholes etc get absorbed much better and so the jolts are not transmitted through the chasis and steering column as much as the other tires I have tried (stock, michelin pilot, etc.) 50mm sidewall height helps also. I can only describe this as a very buttery feeling in your hands. When you push the car to the limits, like in autocross mode, it will become instantly apparent that the tires are the limitation and not the suspension. In this mode I can see why people upgrade their swaybars a bit as well. Although the car does not slide out, you can feel the tires rolling under which creates a wider arc in your turn. Of course if a cop sees you driving the way I did to test this suspension, you will probably be living with some new roomates for a while. It took 3 1/2 hours to do the job by myself and about $800.00 in shocks and springs. For anyone still on the fence, this is a very cheap experiment with dramatic results. Throw away the stock suspension and never look back !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeguzik Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Did anyone who installed the Rallitek's cut their bump stops down? What is your recommendation for cutting these with the Rallitek springs, necessary or a waste of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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