DogLeggGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I've had my Perrin EL Header on for almost two years - almost 40k miles - and it's doing great. I actually got a look-see at it today at the dealership while a new UP was being installed to replace a crap cracked flex joint on an aftermarket UP. The sound is just fine if you don't mind losing the burble of the boxer. I have AVO Type 2 cans on the car, so, that does a lot for the sound too. As for the sexiness factor, I don't need the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 boxer rumble ftw!! negative Subaru boxer with EL header ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLeggGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 negative Subaru boxer with EL header ftw yah, i agree. i don't want to be divisive, but the EL header sound has nothing to do with riciness, or any other nasty raspy sound. it sounds quite ncie. the Boxer Burble is great for some folks. but i'm quite partial to my Perrin EL header Purrrrrr-ble. i'd never go back to UEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 yah, i agree. i don't want to be divisive, but the EL header sound has nothing to do with riciness, or any other nasty raspy sound. it sounds quite ncie. the Boxer Burble is great for some folks. but i'm quite partial to my Perrin EL header Purrrrrr-ble. i'd never go back to UEL. I have EL headers on my car now, and the car sounds just like it did before, only smoother, quieter, and when idling less of a "boxer" rumble. The "sound" of the car IME comes form the CBE. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 More fuel to the fire, my Perrin ceramic coated EL headers exhaust note [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewiiBmg7Uw]YouTube - Ed's Legacy GT exhaust sound clip[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 EL headers are the best way to ruin the sound of a Suby and make it sound no different than a Honda. IMHO. ^^^ Case in point. I've heard quite a few Hondas sound like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I have actual twin-scroll turbo (with EL headers of course) and it sounds different than in the clip above. NOT LIKE A HONDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 ^^^ With a turbo upgrade it should sound pretty badass. I have heard a couple Hondas with twin-scroll turbos, and they didn't sound like a Honda either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLeggGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 EL headers are the best way to ruin the sound of a Suby and make it sound no different than a Honda. IMHO. ^^^ Case in point. I've heard quite a few Hondas sound like that. So then the only difference between a Honda and a Subaru is a poorly engineered header? Honda FTW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I am gonna have to get a sound clip, mine sounds way different then the above, a lot deeper really. Maybe the tone gets lost in the vid. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 ^^^ With a turbo upgrade it should sound pretty badass. I have heard a couple Hondas with twin-scroll turbos, and they didn't sound like a Honda either. Because most Hondas are not turbocharged. Turbo cars sound very different. I agree that a lot depends on the cans, it's not just the headers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I agree that a lot depends on the cans, it's not just the headers. My ELHs did not change the sound of cans very much. It is 90% the cans that make the sound. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLeggGT Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yah, I'm well past a quarter century in age and love the low and understated "Grrrrrrrrr" of the AVOs. The EL simply removes the different timing of the exhaust gasses through the pipes from each side of the manifold. The cans lend most of the sound, and I'd guess that each different set of cans amplify the UEL header differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 ]EL headers are the best way to ruin the sound of a Suby and make it sound no different than a Honda.[/b] IMHO. ^^^ Case in point. I've heard quite a few Hondas sound like that. So you really care that much about a sound that's an unintentional result of a packaging compromise that the JDM models have abandoned? You're welcome to keep the boxer blat and live in yesterday. I'll take my improved airflow and power thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whobaru Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 So you really care that much about a sound that's an unintentional result of a packaging compromise that the JDM models have abandoned?Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLeggGT Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 So you really care that much about a sound that's an unintentional result of a packaging compromise that the JDM models have abandoned? You're welcome to keep the boxer blat and live in yesterday. I'll take my improved airflow and power thanks. Nice. Guess I'm not keeping up on my JDM news. That is a nice bit of info. JDMFTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 http://atdpweb.berkeley.edu/brokenlogic/images/nowai.jpg ?? Tight My Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have Maddad UEL Headers and UP, I love the sound and there are definitely some performance gains up top. I'm happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have Maddad UEL Headers and UP, I love the sound and there are definitely some performance gains up top. I'm happy with them. I have a 2008 ( bought in July of 2008) that I am about to put up for sale to buy a LGT and one friend from college has UEL headers with Catless DP and 3 inch exhaust flowing out of two FM Series 40 Mufflers:eek:. If you can imagine the cabin noise you understand why I woulndt put 40's on a LGT, but boy does it sound SUPER mean outside:eek: and when opened wide up. I like the boxer rumble and I am selling my 2008 to get a 05-07 LGT I know which UEL i am going with but what is a good Up/DP combo to go along with UELH's? Oh I also am exploring and exhaust with FM mufflers and possibly 40's if i could cut some cabin noise out of the equation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Yes As long as you know all the facts and both sides of the debate I cannot hold your opinion against you. However you can't say ELH ruins the sound of the exhaust note, it simply changes it to something that some ppl like a lot, and some ppl dislike a lot. Likewise, i don't like the boxer rumble anymore, but i don't say its *bad* or *ruins* a good car, i just don't like it and i went for a performance upgrade that also happened to get rid of it as a side benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have Maddad UEL Headers and UP, I love the sound and there are definitely some performance gains up top. I'm happy with them. I have the same headers. I wouldn't mind trying the new EL headers from Mad Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Yeah me too, but I would hate to completey lose the boxer rumble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 McCain -Palin ^^^^^^^^ I bet they hate Subaru's :laughing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I have the same headers. I wouldn't mind trying the new EL headers from Mad Dad. I thought the Mad Dad one were UEL ????? I looked on the sight and they dont look EL ? I love the boxer sound so i def want UEL for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Maddad makes EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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