issai Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I noticed that the vast majority of my driving is <3K RPM's. IIRC, this means I'm barely using the turbo, if at all. If this is true, I'd still have considered the NA Legacy, because it'd still have a great compromising set of features-- just minus the turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 your still using the turbo when your out of boost. at 3k you might be zero psi in your manifold which is still more then you would be if NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjundi Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 My wife introduced me to the Legacy GT wagon. Her criteria was manual transmission, heated seats and wagon while car shopping. They gave her NA Legacy sedan(no wagon avail) for feel and returned it promptly after 5 mins stating this is what my mum would drive. They handed her the keys to a LGT Wagon albiet 5EAT and feel in love. We had the last silver 5MT LGT silver wagon in northern New England located and sold. The truth is she has only revved it past 4000 RPM a handful of times and she does not mind the RE92's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 No **turbo**GT......... No interest. Even if they offered the H6 bumped to say.......285-290hp Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 If there was no turbo option, I'd not own the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Man, the second the turbo is out of the equation, all of a sudden the car is garbage? While I would have loved to have a turbo, money-wise it just wasn't doable at this point. But I love my NA, and have modded it as much as I can without the turbo. The only difference on the outside of the car is the GT's hood scoop, so look-wise its basically exactly the same. I may not be able to outrun as many cars as a GT, but my n/a is 5 speed manual and fun as hell to drive with plenty of pep in its step. I'd buy another NA anyday. Yall are hatin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Not hating @ all for me performance is #1 with looks being quite a ways down on the list. Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issai Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I think we each had our own criteria of what constituted the winning car when we were shopping around. I wouldn't cross-shop the TL w/ the LGT becuase, according to the lens I was seeing through, they're not even competitors in my book. I *was* very heavily shopping for a new 2.5i until I realized that I could buy a barely-used 2.5GT for only a few thousand less. I've read the power distribution via the AWD is slightly different between the 2.5i and 2.5GT after I got the GT-- not sure, at my level of performance driving, if I'd notice the difference? Fundamentally, I wanted a Legacy for its feature-set, low center of gravity due to engine placement, and its simplistic AWD. I didn't care for the boxer engine, and the turbo was just icing on the cake. I believe I could probably still beat higher-cost, higher-caliber, higher-performance cars on clover-leaf interchanges in even an NA Legacy with relative ease (it's hilarious when we straighten out, I'm way far ahead of them, and then they punch the gas thinking they've overtaken me-- at 70 mph...). Just as I beat 350Z's and G35's in the '89 325i I had for a few months. That's what brings a smile to my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 NA Legacy = Honda/Nissan/Toyota + AWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issai Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I'd say Nissan + AWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTATURBO Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Man, the second the turbo is out of the equation, all of a sudden the car is garbage? While I would have loved to have a turbo, money-wise it just wasn't doable at this point. But I love my NA, and have modded it as much as I can without the turbo. The only difference on the outside of the car is the GT's hood scoop, so look-wise its basically exactly the same. I may not be able to outrun as many cars as a GT, but my n/a is 5 speed manual and fun as hell to drive with plenty of pep in its step. I'd buy another NA anyday. Yall are hatin. word....I'm with Frostbite too many ppl drinkin this on here http://www.warpedtoys.com/images/product_images/haterade.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issai Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I'm curious as to how many people can pass muster of being able to *properly handle* the GT's, or any other performance car's, delivery of power if they were in a compromised situation. My bet is very few of them have that capability. Thankfully for GT owners, the AWD will be more forgiving of the driver's mistakes, than other car's drivetrains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilrabbit129 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I don't claim to be able to handle even half of the cornering and power potential of my GT. But I do know that I love the feel of the turbo pushing me back against the seat when I need that little bit of ooommpphhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicytuna Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Being the owner of an older Legacy which was NA, I did consider the 2.5i as well but after test driving the GT, there was no looking back. The power was just too addictive but thanks to the SI Drive, I usually keep it in the I mode unless I really need that extra power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 i dont hate the 2.5i at all and never said it was junk. i wanted the performance. with out the turbo the car does not interest me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I'm curious as to how many people can pass muster of being able to *properly handle* the GT's, or any other performance car's, delivery of power if they were in a compromised situation. My bet is very few of them have that capability. Thankfully for GT owners, the AWD will be more forgiving of the driver's mistakes, than other car's drivetrains... I think it is the other way around. In inclement weather AWD can put you over your head faster than FWD and probably RWD. Krzys PS No turbo no deal, except manual H6. I was looking for fun to drive sedan with manual, AWD was not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 No. I never owned or considered Subaru before I bought my GT. Without the turbo I dont even consider it. With the turbo its the best Bang for the Buck ( for adult drivers) under 30K. Thats why Im in my car anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B. Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Man, the second the turbo is out of the equation, all of a sudden the car is garbage? While I would have loved to have a turbo, money-wise it just wasn't doable at this point. But I love my NA, and have modded it as much as I can without the turbo. The only difference on the outside of the car is the GT's hood scoop, so look-wise its basically exactly the same. I may not be able to outrun as many cars as a GT, but my n/a is 5 speed manual and fun as hell to drive with plenty of pep in its step. I'd buy another NA anyday. Yall are hatin. yeah. on a performance standpoint. outside of the turbo, what does it have? i wouldn't buy a subaru with no power. g35x or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B. Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I think it is the other way around. In inclement weather AWD can put you over your head faster than FWD and probably RWD. Krzys PS No turbo no deal, except manual H6. I was looking for fun to drive sedan with manual, AWD was not necessary. i agree man. acceleration even on ice isn't too bad...stopping...yeah. the added traction during accleration will fool ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendite Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I see it from both points. There are times when I wish I had some extra juice. For me, the MPG was a huge factor because it's my work car that averages 100+ miles per day(30K in one year). Cost was not a factor, the GT is cheap for what it does. If you don't live in snow country, why would you buy a NA subaru?...safety maybe...certainly not the looks. I'd have a Honda if I lived at lower elevation. I have owned subaru cars for quit some time and it's for one reason only, they they go in the snow. Audi would be nice but those things fall apart and i'd be bummed every time the car in front of me flung a rock and chipped the pretty paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I put just over 70miles a day on mine right now & really have no need for AWD other than it's performance in wet weather. But a Honda.........NOT!! Gas mileage for me really ranks down @ the bottom of the list. Though I get just under 30mpg with my setup:) Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jond_68 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schneiks Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I would not have a legacy if it did not have Turbo. I'd probably be in an A4 Quattro or IS250 awd now that I make more than I do when I got my car. I definitely want to stick to a powerful AWD sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi365 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 negative ghost rider........... Sorry when car shopping a had a few things the car HAD to have. I could have gotten a demo IS250 awd, but its to slow. TL's are more expensive, and fwd only (which I may have over looked on the TL S), the Altima coupe wasn't out yet, and Evos/STis are just to boy racerish to me. Left me between a MS6, used S60r, and the LGT. The LGT was the most reliable, mod friendly, and had almost all the options I wanted. So thats why I have a LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdubs Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I fell into my 95 wagon 6 years ago, just needing a winter vehicle. After driving it, and discovering it actually rode better than my 01 and 06 eclipses I decided to see how the new ones faired. So far so good. I don't care it doesn't have a turbo, I spend the money I save in gas on more beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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