05COLEGGT Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Just did this 'mod' over the weekend. Literally took about 30 minutes including creating my own stubby 17mm wrench. I just used a dab of grease on the banjo bolt head to make the washer stick there and it held fine. Was a few mystery things in the screen but not bad at all given the cars 99k mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby2.5 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The perfect way to do this is a piece of thread. Tie the thread around the washer and hang it down in there. The thread will just disintegrate when you screw the bolt in. Someone on the forum showed me that a long time ago, and it worked perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hmm. I took out my banjo filter around 20k miles ago, lost one of the 2 crush washers, just put it back together with 1, and everything seems fine.. I had a shop remove the filter entirely when they installed the bnr16g turbo - they may have re-installed a 2nd washer, I don't know. However, I would say I ran with only 1 washer for at least 5-7k miles. No leaks, no problems.. Is there anything that losing a washer could cause problems with that's NOT an external leak? I mean, the washers are only there to stop the thing from dripping, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 The washers create a crush-seal between the bolt head and the banjo, the banjo and the block and keep leakage/spray from happening. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 do you even need the screen in the bolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05COLEGGT Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The screen in the banjo bolt is the whole purpose of this thread...right? lol It was put there by Subaru to help protect the fragile turbo journal bearings from getting contaminated. IMHO you don't really need this screen after the engine is fully broken in and the bearing material is out of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 IMHO you don't really need this screen after the engine is fully broken in and the bearing material is out of the system. Unless you go with longer than prescribed OCIs (>3750 Miles) on normal oil filter filtration. Then it seems to be a crap shoot. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Unless you go with longer than prescribed OCIs (>3750 Miles) on normal oil filter filtration. Then it seems to be a crap shoot. This would be me:p:). 2 microns filtration, 15k OCI, Cobbs stage 1 93 tune, 16.2 psi. of max boost & 169k+miles on the original motor & turbo. Took the original ones out at 73k. Another 4k I will have 100k on this set of banjo filter bolts. Then I will inspect & if all is fine. I will leave them out. If I have crap in them. I but new ones in & change them out every 100k. Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Was thinking specifically of you... - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 do you even need the screen in the bolt? Or you can replace the whole thing with an Infamous Performance replacement oil line with a serviceable filter. Due on 7/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrant Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 OK Subadozer, it's past 7/7. Got that new oil line installed yet? : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCvillain Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Hey great write up and it was a lot easier than I thought. Some of pictures I thought to add more clarity for those apprehensive about tackling this project. One showing the banjo bolt revealed after pulling the bracket and the other showing after the bolt is removed. And of course the results ofthe efforts: a hairy filter. Looked like a wooky went through it with hairs sticking out. About half clogged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmarko Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, I'm swapping the turbo on my LGT, and want to bypass the OEM oil feed line (and check the banjo filter and remove possibly). I've seen this kit from P&L Motorsports, and would like to order it...but I'm not sure if I need to specify anything. They mention it has "04-08 STI and 06-08 WRX Fitment", but of course I'm upgrading to a VF52. Can anyone let me know specifically what I need to let them know when ordering? Will this even work with our cars? I found it in another thread some weeks ago, but no one mentioned about what specifically to order. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 OK Subadozer, it's past 7/7. Got that new oil line installed yet? : ) :iam:I assume you've been following the Bolt-up turbo upgrade thread? Back in early July Mike updated that there was a problem with getting one of the components of the replacement line. Since then...silence. He's responded to other elements of the thread but not even to a well-written request for update and ETA on these lines. I think it's Doc Crowly that had a local shop make an alternative filtered line that taps into the oil galley but I'm having problems fitting in a time to have the car down to do the turbo swap, since it's our only one, so haven't felt pressured into investigated that alternative yet. Still, everyday I open my email thinking that it might be the day that I get a PM saying that the new lines are finally available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I've seen this kit from P&L Motorsports, and would like to order it...but I'm not sure if I need to specify anything. They mention it has "04-08 STI and 06-08 WRX Fitment", I looked on the P&L website and a search for products didn't bring this up. Is it a stock item or something they make up to order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmarko Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I looked on the P&L website and a search for products didn't bring this up. Is it a stock item or something they make up to order? Here's the link I have for it. http://www.pandlmotorsports.com/osCommerce/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_378_449&products_id=435 I looked there because people in other threads had mentioned the P&L kit...so I was looking to purchase it so I can get my LGT back on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrant Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Isn't this it on Infamous' website? http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-767/Forced-Performance-Subaru-Legacy-fdsh-STi/Detail It doesn't say the re-located screen is included and I don't think I see it in the picture, which is kind of why I'm here asking I guess. I need to check my screen and I was thinking of installing the replacement "easier to check" line while I was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmarko Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'd rather go with the one I linked to because it also feeds the OCV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 That's the Forced Performance line that Bryan supplies as an add-on with the BNR turbos to increase oil flow. There's no filter and that's why Mike is developing a totally different line. Isn't this it on Infamous' website? http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-767/Forced-Performance-Subaru-Legacy-fdsh-STi/Detail It doesn't say the re-located screen is included and I don't think I see it in the picture, which is kind of why I'm here asking I guess. I need to check my screen and I was thinking of installing the replacement "easier to check" line while I was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrant Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 OK, thanks for the clarification. I guess I'll just check my screen, and wait for a better kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supers587 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 You won't believe this shit. I just bought an LGT today, registered and insured it and got it road-worthy. The previous owner went through two turbos, and then sold it to me out of frustration. I got another vf40, installed it and didn't even make it home before it blew. I'm beyond angry right now.. a bit of rage I suppose. Is it possible that the screens are so clogged it blew the THIRD TURBO in a matter of 20 miles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supers587 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I know WHERE they are, but I don't know what they look like. If I'm correct, they're placed INSIDE the banjo bolts on the feed line coming off the head, right? Is there one or two? Can I simply just remove them and leave them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supers587 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think I'm gonna go cry. Brb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniaxzero Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 whats the average labor cost for this job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supers587 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 For what, removing the oil screens from the lines or replacement of a turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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