itsme Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I have a problem and I'm Thinking about getting a set of coilovers. Right now I have : 19x7.5 w/ 225/35/19 H-tech springs Whiteline F&R adj. swaybays (set on soft) Superpro poly standard fulcrum bushing Cusco F&R lower brace AVO Rear SwayBar reinforcement My car handles great and ride pretty smooth for the most part. Now that I went stage 2 now I'm getting the same squat I had with stock spring and motor. It's so bad now that if I'm WOT in first or second and hit a small dip the rear of my wagon bottoms out. It the combo of add rear weight of wagon and soft , short springs. I need to get the squat under control and I want to keep a smooth ride(don't we all:wub: ) and I 'm will to raise the rear some. If I get the same wheel gap as the front I think I will be alright. I have heard good things about these coilovers. Do you think these would fix my problem and fit my needs? thanks Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 I have a problem and I'm Thinking about getting a set of coilovers. Right now I have : 19x7.5 w/ 225/35/19 H-tech springs Whiteline F&R adj. swaybays (set on soft) Superpro poly standard fulcrum bushing Cusco F&R lower brace AVO Rear SwayBar reinforcement My car handles great and ride pretty smooth for the most part. Now that I went stage 2 now I'm getting the same squat I had with stock spring and motor. It's so bad now that if I'm WOT in first or second and hit a small dip the rear of my wagon bottoms out. It the combo of add rear weight of wagon and soft , short springs. I need to get the squat under control and I want to keep a smooth ride(don't we all:wub: ) and I 'm will to raise the rear some. If I get the same wheel gap as the front I think I will be alright. I have heard good things about these coilovers. Do you think these would fix my problem and fit my needs? thanks These will more then fix your problem. Your rear will not bottom out, look how you want, but they will handle and ride better too. Win win, but costs more. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Win win, but costs more. But what about the brake bias shifted to the rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 But what about the brake bias shifted to the rear That is a question that I am still working on. If one is on a limited budget I would recommend maybe only getting better front pads and keeping the OEM rears in for a while and see how that works. I know I will be experimenting with different rear pads pretty soon. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 So far I have not noticed the brake bias issue... I rebedded my pads on Saturday and had some VERY hard stops with Hankook RS2s on. My wife and I have bruises, and I NEVER felt the rear end start to come around. This could be the difference with the wagon. I don't know for sure. And remember, I have larger rear brakes that give me even more rear bias than LBGTs... Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scooter Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Come on, unclemat - just go ahead and throw yours on the car and then give us your opinion, too. Stop procrastinating... I'm eagerly awaiting your opinion on Bilsteins/Pinks vs. KW's. Seek first to understand, then to be understood. In other words: SEARCH before you post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Come on, unclemat - just go ahead and throw yours on the car and then give us your opinion, too. Stop procrastinating... I'm eagerly awaiting your opinion on Bilsteins/Pinks vs. KW's. Well, please be patient Won't happen until mid April. I'll be too busy travelling in meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 So far I have not noticed the brake bias issue... I rebedded my pads on Saturday and had some VERY hard stops with Hankook RS2s on. My wife and I have bruises, and I NEVER felt the rear end start to come around. This could be the difference with the wagon. I don't know for sure. And remember, I have larger rear brakes that give me even more rear bias than LBGTs... Ted WIth ABS the only time I noticed it was on the highway on pure ice. Other then that the EBD seems to do its job. Try disconnecting the ABS and then see what happens. Brakes better now with considerably stiffer springs, eh? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Can you post some picture so I can see how your car sits. Now my car is about a 1/2" to a 1" lower in the rear today. That picture is about 7 months old. I think I may just spend the extra money and get the KW's over the Tein basic. They both wont be in till next week. So I have to make my choice soon. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Can you post some picture so I can see how your car sits. Now my car is about a 1/2" to a 1" lower in the rear today. That picture is about 7 months old. I think I may just spend the extra money and get the KW's over the Tein basic. They both wont be in till next week. So I have to make my choice soon. I could, but it is adjustable, so it will sit how you want it to sit. KW recommends at least 1.25 inches lower in the front and 0.8 inch lower in the rear for proper shock use. If you really want pics I can take though, real dirty here lately. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I could, but it is adjustable, so it will sit how you want it to sit. KW recommends at least 1.25 inches lower in the front and 0.8 inch lower in the rear for proper shock use. If you really want pics I can take though, real dirty here lately. You don't have to go through the trouble of reseting it. Just the pictures of how it sit as they recommend is fine. I just want to get an ideal of what that looks like. Because my h-techs say .9" drop and I know it's lower then that. thanks Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 You don't have to go through the trouble of reseting it. Just the pictures of how it sit as they recommend is fine. I just want to get an ideal of what that looks like. Because my h-techs say .9" drop and I know it's lower then that. thanks I will get you some pics. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 thanks Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 istme, here are some pics on a wagon. This is close to the highest setting. I could go another half inch higher in front, another quarter inch in the back. I am exactly 2 fingers all around now... http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/SideShot.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/FrontQuarter.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/BackQuarterModified.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So you finally fix everything. Man you were having a hard time getting finish. So how do you like the ride? How far is that from the KW recommended height? I Planned on having mine lower. Maybe one finger space from fender. Thanks for the pictures. Do you have to take off the wheels to adjust height? Do you think these are worth the extra $700 over the Tein Basics? Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 The max recommended height is 13.8" in the front, 14.2" in the rear (measured from the center of the wheel to the fender) I am at 14" front and rear, but my front set-up is actually .5" lower than the "max" height measured by the threads. This is due to the camber plate raising the height slightly more than 3/8". W/o the camber plate, you can lower all the way down to 12.6" front, 13" rear. So, about 1.5" lower than me in the front and 1" lower in the rear. That would be about .5 finger gap in the rear and almost tucked in the front... Yes, they are worth it. The valving is better than any Teins I have ever been on, PERIOD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Do you have to take off the wheels to adjust height? Do you think these are worth the extra $700 over the Tein Basics? It is easier to take off the wheels to adj the rear, the fronts I haven't adjusted as they were perfect from the get-go. They are worth more then $700 more IMO. I think these are a steal for $1500. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDork Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 thanks for the wagon pics. looks like a nice stance and you shouldnt have to worry about the front bumper too much....why must you tempt me. i need to stay off this board! you bought from boostjunkie? i thought he was the MR pimp? KW too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Yes, they are worth it. The valving is better than any Teins I have ever been on, PERIOD... Thanks for the info. Now Tein and my wallet hates you. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 thanks for the wagon pics. looks like a nice stance and you shouldnt have to worry about the front bumper too much....why must you tempt me. i need to stay off this board! you bought from boostjunkie? i thought he was the MR pimp? KW too? Everyone with KW's who has posted in this thread (except for unclemat) bought their KW's from me. The MR coilovers are great, but the KW's fit the needs of some people better so that's why I carry them. Let me know if you need I set, I'll hook you up a great deal and support the product after the sale like I do for all my customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDork Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 i guess if i read your title...i would have enlightened myself if i take the coilover plunge ill shoot you a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceComp Engineering Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 istme, here are some pics on a wagon. This is close to the highest setting. I could go another half inch higher in front, another quarter inch in the back. I am exactly 2 fingers all around now... http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/SideShot.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/FrontQuarter.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e257/praedet/Suspension/Comparison/BackQuarterModified.jpg That looks awesome! - Drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Thanks Too bad I have to drive like a granny right now because of an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 so what the heck is going on with unclemat? yet another suspension swap? KW's replacing the Ohlins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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