GTLTDGOLFR Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I've got an '06 LGT, 5MT. Live in NJ. Have some extra $$, enough for summer wheels and tires or a cobb accessport, but likely not for both at present. Goal is increased driving pleasure April - October, primarily. Which would you do if you could only do one, or if there's a third option for similary $$, what is it? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyboy004 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 i'd go with wheels/tires. the car is plenty fast enough, and with improved handling, it might be worth it. if your price range is $700-$1200 which it sounds, you can go AP and do bolt on suspension mods like a RSB/FSB which is relatively cheap around $180-$200 per bar. The RSB is an essential mod IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 if youre running on stocks, then wheels and tires definitely first, dont bother with cobb accessport unless youre doing exhaust/turbo mods at the same time to maximize your cobb tune. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 wheels/tires and suspension/brakes first. then pow4r! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love these either/ or threads. Lots of great debate comes in to play... IBMcCorryPhilTEdKwon Edit- Ed got in before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'd normally say power first, but since you can reflash your ECU for free with open source software, get the wheels/tires and the flash too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ^^^ What? Where have I been? Want to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ^^^ Using the Tactrix 1.2-1.3 cable, you can use Enginuity & Ecuflash, to edit and write/read the ecm ROM image. The cable will set you back about $80, and the software is FREE!!! Also, if you aren't too comfortable with editing maps, there are a few posted up on Openecu, that are generic Stg1/2. With some datalogging, you can tweak them to suit. I use Cobb ST, and also these tools, as some things the ST doesn't allow you to edit. And so far, only Cobb has RT tuning capability. Which makes experimenting super easy:icon_bigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'd normally say power first, but since you can reflash your ECU for free with open source software, get the wheels/tires and the flash too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTLTDGOLFR Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 ^^^ Using the Tactrix 1.2-1.3 cable, you can use Enginuity & Ecuflash, to edit and write/read the ecm ROM image. The cable will set you back about $80, and the software is FREE!!! Also, if you aren't too comfortable with editing maps, there are a few posted up on Openecu, that are generic Stg1/2. With some datalogging, you can tweak them to suit. I use Cobb ST, and also these tools, as some things the ST doesn't allow you to edit. And so far, only Cobb has RT tuning capability. Which makes experimenting super easy:icon_bigg I live in Somerset County, NJ. Your quote might as well be Chinese to me. Who in North or Central Jersey would one go to for this and perhaps the suspension bars mentioned above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 That is a tough call... I personally would go with the AP, it is by far the best mod i have ever done to any car I have owned. Wheels are nice..the look great and improve perfomance but it can;t compare to the AP thrill. I would do AP and springs..skip the rims till next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I live in Somerset County, NJ. Your quote might as well be Chinese to me. Who in North or Central Jersey would one go to for this and perhaps the suspension bars mentioned above? Sorry...The cable is needed to connect to the OBDII interface under the dash. This allows a laptop to communicate with the ECU. The software allows one to manipulate/reprogram the ECU for performance. As for going to someone for OpenEcu tuning, I don't know. For installs of hardware, you can hookup with AZP Installs in Kenilworth, NJ or PRecision Tuning in Brick, NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Handling > powah -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 but smile on AP > smile on wheels+tires (assuming Rotas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Power gives bigger smiles per gallon than handling Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antny Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 My opinion is if this is the fastest car you have owned then I would say sway bars, springs, brake pads and then new tires. All but the tires and brake pads you can find on here used pretty decently priced. If this isnt the fastest car you owned I woudl say AP first because if you mod anytime down the road you will have the engine management thing down. so that is my 2 pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 if you have $$$ for wheels AND tires ... then maybe go AP + tires. You can get a good set of tires on stock wheels and be very happy as well. Edit: I see you live in Jersey, and based on what I've heard from Jersey roads, go with 17" wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Power gives bigger smiles per gallon than handling I tend to disagree.. but then again I have +power and +handling. lol. Pulling close to 1g on a skidpad.. priceless -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I tend to disagree.. but then again I have +power and +handling. lol. Pulling close to 1g on a skidpad.. priceless Maybe, but I don't drive on a skidpan every day on my way to work, but I do get to use all 255whp and 295 wtq Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Fan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Same choice........Guess which one I picked??? OZ Crono HT 18x8 with Pirelli P Zero Nero 225/40/18:wub: :wub: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/RM-RS/OZ-2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Wagon Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Alright I'll put my 2 cents in since I started the last either or thread. (stage II or suspension?) In the past 2 months I went from stock to stage I and purchased a 18x8 Rota Tarmac III, Kumho tire combo. IMHO the Cobb Accessport was the better mod. Going Stage I made the power band smoother and got rid of my studder. Although I like my rims, and do agree that the car does grip better than before (probably due to the Kumho's and not the wheels) the 18's will really make you want to lower the car since for whatever reason, you notice the wheel gap more. So...... I would say Accessport and use the rest for a set of tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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