wanting an 08 spec b Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 i am with you on the "too common" thing...one of the reasons that i love subaru so much is that they make awsome products that very few people own...but most all (intelligent ppl) respect... kindof like the mac computer...great product - few ppl own (but now there seems to be a small bandwagon forming) as i look at the vehicles you are scoping, they all appear to be of excellent calliber...which ever you test drive and decide will be great for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 How many who are actively complaining about lack of this and lack of that are honestly, realistically in the market with intention to buy anyway? Lots of those I'm referring to already have an LGT Wagon 5MT or what have you and aren't even prospective buyers. Be happy that you got IBTcancellationof5MTwagon. You're missing the point. The battle for LGT MT wagon was a battle for a bigger thing - manufacturer dedicated to a sporty line of cars. If the car was promoted enough - and if the company honestly wanted to build performance "Japanese BMW image" in the US (and not gay/lesbian/weirdo/tree hugger image) - they would offer performance vehicles across the line: small sedan & hatch (Impreza) midsize sedan & wagon (Legacy) crossover (Tribeca) ALL, yes all of them, should be available with manual transmissions. In regular sporty GT trims as well as high-end peformace STI trims. Even if certain models are slow sellers, you build them FOR THE PERFORMANCE BRAND RECOGNITION. That's it. If the people recognized the brand as such, there would be enough buyers even for LGT MT wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanting an 08 spec b Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 i agree with you - but not in this forum (news and rumor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaWolverine Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 If what Jon in CT said was true, why is the VDC only an option on AT LGT's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 If what Jon in CT said was true, why is the VDC only an option on AT LGT's? Go back to 2001 in your time machine and figure out why VDC was only on the 4EAT H6. What Subaru is trying to say is that the Auto's always have the better management for traction control.....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaWolverine Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 so it only works with 6MT's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 but let's not forget this is the first US Legacy generation to have a turbo). I think there was turbo Legacy in early 90s. I might be wrong. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgt_nube Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Why would SOA eliminate everything but the Legacy sedan? Are they purposely killing that too?I can only offer that the Subaru dealer in north SF Bay told me that they sell many times more Outbacks than Legacies, and that I see many many Outbacks while seeing a Legacy is an "event". If that's true generally and not just locally, I wouldn't be surprised that what you suggest is true. A few photos of the LGT My current ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantal Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I think there was turbo Legacy in early 90s. I might be wrong. Krzys I'm not sure, but actually I think you're wrong. I'll check it out though out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I'm not sure, but actually I think you're wrong. I'll check it out though out of curiosity. He's right. Of course there was turbo Legacy in early 90s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantal Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 He's right. Of course there was turbo Legacy in early 90s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Legacy wiki is so much faster than the audi-like pig, edmunds.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Go back to 2001 in your time machine and figure out why VDC was only on the 4EAT H6. What Subaru is trying to say is that the Auto's always have the better management for traction control.....right? Dude, next time it snows, you need to come drive my spec.B. We'll try to light up that VDC light...not easy, even with the summer tires. Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left footed whooten Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 You're missing the point. The battle for LGT MT wagon was a battle for a bigger thing - manufacturer dedicated to a sporty line of cars. If the car was promoted enough - and if the company honestly wanted to build performance "Japanese BMW image" in the US (and not gay/lesbian/weirdo/tree hugger image) - they would offer performance vehicles across the line: small sedan & hatch (Impreza) midsize sedan & wagon (Legacy) crossover (Tribeca) ALL, yes all of them, should be available with manual transmissions. In regular sporty GT trims as well as high-end peformace STI trims. Even if certain models are slow sellers, you build them FOR THE PERFORMANCE BRAND RECOGNITION. That's it. If the people recognized the brand as such, there would be enough buyers even for LGT MT wagons. But you can't force people's perceptions. You can advertise and persuade, but people think what they think, and buy what they buy in the end. In my neck of the woods, the Outback and OB Sport are king. Its called your 'bread and butter'. Good luck with the upheaval of that. I'd like to see an MT and STI everything, but its just not realistic until the market supports it. The lack of sales and such could/would drive the price up higher just to have these models rotting at the dealers, not selling. IMHO, it will take so much to get N.A. to recognize Subaru as a performance brand, it simply would not be worth the $$$ to SOA/FHI. We can only hope with Travis Patrana's popularity and therefore rallying's popularity on the rise, this will carry into the above performance brand recognition and then into more STI models. It does chap my arse a bit to not even be able to special order an MT for some extra cash, but that's a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 So what car is going to buy an owner of Subaru WRX wagon? Legacy wagon would have been natural choice. SIA makes wagons for Canadian market. Why cannot one order a wagon if he/she wants one? Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left footed whooten Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So what car is going to buy an owner of Subaru WRX wagon? Legacy wagon would have been natural choice. SIA makes wagons for Canadian market. Why cannot one order a wagon if he/she wants one? Krzys Good question. Wish we had the order option. Emissions couldn't be that different, if they are different at all, could they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ^ Zero differences wrt to emission/crash test standards/etc as far as Legacy is concerned. In fact I pretty much bet the only different part on MY2007+ Legacies is the gauge cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Anyone have any new pictures of the 2.5GT spec.B? I can't find any, nor can I find new information... -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanting an 08 spec b Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 if you mean pics other than the canadian international autoshow...then no. I can't find anymore either. when i wrote to subaru (5-6 days ago) their response is that "information is minimal" on the new spec b or on to the likelihood of the legacy sti i like the '08 pics but i don't know if historicaly canada and the U.S. have gotten the exact same car (though my suspision is that they are the same concidering they come from the same power plant, but i may be wrong on this and will humbly accept any correction). if you find anything please let us all know peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I don't know why Subaru is lagging with the press release. The moment the 3.0R was unveiled, the press release and pictures were up on the Subaru media site. I understand the spec.B and 2.5GT aren't new models, but they could at least give us some information. Regardless, Joe Spitz of cars101.com stated that dealers should be receiving '08 ordering information by the end of this month *crosses fingers*. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdw Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love the tribeca's stance and the way they perform for the most part, but I think they're just hideous. I totally agree on the stance. It sits on the road very nicely. If they just redid the front end, it'd be fine. Oh, it really needs a telescoping steering wheel also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeslk Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So any news on when the new 08 Legacy's will be on the lots for deliver in Canada... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 ^^^ Any word on when the 08's come out? I torn between an 07 and 08 spec B! I spoke with an SOC rep at the Canadian autoshow. I asked him if 08 Legacy's will be out during the normal release time of April. He said he did not know and then said they have been talking about pushing the release date back further:icon_mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lejjasie Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I like the www.subarulegacy.ca website. it is better than the preview on the US subaru.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 my rims look like shit on that car. not enough tire meat. looks the same as the one at the chicago auto show http://www.stimpco.com/coppermine/albums/cars/2007autoshow/normal_2007-ChiAuSh-088.jpg http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/423426/rb.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lejjasie Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Agreed. I want that RED car and I want it in Canada. Dude your car is too EFFIN H.O.T. I wish these were cheaper like in the US. I am getting rid of my 2006 SE btw. Either it's one like yours or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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