Jon in CT Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Both Chilton and Haynes have recently published service manuals for the Subaru 2000-2006 Forester, Legacy, Outback and Baja. And you can find them for less than $20 each. The Chilton manual is ISBN 1563926237 and the Haynes manual is ISBN 15639256199. You have to wonder, given the timing and coverage and use of the same car on the cover, whether they're the same manual, except re-organized to conform to each of the two brands' standard table of contents format. Below are images of the covers. http://i10.tinypic.com/2ef29er.jpg http://i9.tinypic.com/4g5ly14.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 thanks. which one do you feel is the better manual? bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 thanks. which one do you feel is the better manual? boscoAt this point in time, without feedback from any purchasers, the cheaper one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 ;776512']At this point in time' date=' without feedback from any purchasers, the cheaper one. [/quote'] Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Are the cars that much alike? I would think that 05 and 06 would be significantly different than the previous body style, different engines available, different transmissions available (5EAT-SS...) and differently assembled... I dunno, but I wonder how specific these manuals can be when covering both body styles... And with the Forester??? I thought the Forester had more in common, chassis-wise, with the current impreza, than the drivetrain commonality with the Legacy... Maybe it is all just overview type stuff, and doesn't get into the details about each model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianspi Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 +99999 I'm confused. Are the cars that much alike? I would think that 05 and 06 would be significantly different than the previous body style, different engines available, different transmissions available (5EAT-SS...) and differently assembled... I dunno, but I wonder how specific these manuals can be when covering both body styles... And with the Forester??? I thought the Forester had more in common, chassis-wise, with the current impreza, than the drivetrain commonality with the Legacy... Maybe it is all just overview type stuff, and doesn't get into the details about each model... enough zip ties and duct tape will fix anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I had a Haynes for my '89 Buick Century and it was clear and consise with good pics and coverage of engines/options. Here's the Chiltons for my LeBaron, very packed and disorganized cause it covers 13 models! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxiboy Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 why not just get the subaru service manual out of ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandman Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I got the Haynes as it's handy to have some reference - it's a habit from owning British cars..... Only thing I used it for so far was to change the horns. And it's wrong, says the horns are in the front grille. Pep Boys had it on the shelf. Who Dares Wins スバル Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 it's a habit from owning British cars..... With their fine Lucas wiring! "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donswhitegt Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I have always had a preference for Chiltons as I have found Hayes manuals to often be lacking critical information. However the factory manual is typically best. The alldata CD's are good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Hanes? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/423426/hanesunderwear.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie_dude05 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 i have used chilton before...but never haynes. anyone prefer either one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 1) alldata 2) haynes 3) chilton 4) guessing where can you get a factory manual? does it have wiring diagrams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourMoBro Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 well...I have both, and have to say that they a nearly identical. The only difference is in the cover and the fonts. I prefer the Chilton over the Haynes because it seems easier on the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 normally i get both, dont know about these two but normally they are not the same. one is normally for the dyi shadetree type and one is more tech oriended....cant recall which now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 ...cant recall which now... that helps bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas569 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 i know but if i recall it was the chilton that was more tech oriented, but thats not useful info cause these guys said these two are pretty much the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourMoBro Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 pics are the same....words are the same.....chapters are the same....pic a page...the content is the same on the same page or before/after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 where can you get a factory manual? Seach this site for Vacation Pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhBe1 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 That's unfortunate, they used to be different, with my preference being Haynes. Chiltons always tried to cover too many models in one book ( e.g., Miata and Protege). Sounds like Chiltons took over Haynes. 06LOB2.5i MT, JDMRSB, GYTTs, HPS, LGT Mufflers & Leather Wheel, SubiMomo Knob, Inalfa Moonroof, Clutch Switch Bypass, DeDRLd, DeChimed, & Straight Headrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdw Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 My experience with those sort of manuals is, get them all and get the factory manual too. Often times one manual will cover one piece better than another and vice versa. They're cheap enough and can save you a lot of $ vs. going to a mechanic (or worst the dealer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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