Garandman

Anyone here have an all-white LGT with gigantic tailpipes going from the Broadway bridge to Rt 93 N this morning about 10am?

Yup, since 90% or more of Subaru enthusiasts drive WRX's, you should count on a lot of WRX owners and only an occasional LGT, Baja turbo, SVX, etc.

Not quite accurate: in addition to the wing you must add a two-tone Crown Victoria with blue lights flashing.....

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And here's what to do with your stock rims! http://www.geocities.com/theseventhfirst/wrx_lgt_rims_ls.jpg

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. When a Chuck Norris movie was first aired in France, they surrendered.

Trailer is a 94, so surge. And drum brakes. Our motorboattrailer is electric + disc - much preferable. We normally launch from a crane but it pulls it up a ramp no problem. But it has VTD, it's not 50/50.

Backing a 30' long, 3000# trailer uphill through a maze of other boats to a crane would require so much slipping of the clutch that it would not last very long. Older Outbacks in Australia used to have low range. That would work better, but we don't get it, just as we don't get cars like the Liberty SpecB 3.0R wagon (with 6 spd manual or 5EAT!).

I stand corrected. According to the previous owner, the all-up weight with gear, sails, outboard, and canvas covers is indeed over 3,000. The trailer itself weighs 980 and the H6 pulls it like it's not even there.

I haven't weighed it with all the gear, but the boat has a lot of carbon fiber and even with 530 lbs of lead keel bulb weighs 1,830 lbs. The sails and outboard aren't more than a couple of hundred, and I don't think the trailer weighs as much as 1,000 lbs.

Here's the boat we towrd with the OBW for a couple of short trips of 50-100 miles thus far. This is one of the reasons why we bought the H6. The highest temp was 81 degrees: the temp gage never moved. With all the gear aboard the all-up weight is probably less than but close to 3,000 lbs. The 3.0R pulls it very well, and stops well also. I have coilovers lowered 2" but will probably bring it up an inch for more clearance when towing. Handling is no issue. We get around 13.5 mpg towing this package with our V8 Chevy Express van. The OBW gets about the same! I guess that's an indication of how much work is being done. It would not be fun towing this with a 4EAT as you'd be in third a lot - the 5EAT is better. A manual is out of the question for us as we could never back it into some of the places it needs to go: something much easier to do with the OBW than the van. The coilovers have lowered it 2" - I'm going to crank it up an inch to prevent dragging on crowns. http://www.geocities.com/vstromboston/Melgesrr.jpg

If he ramp is steep, hook up a tow line to your front bumper before you back down, or at least get it out and have it handy. there are usually plenty of big pickups or SUV's near a ramp, who can help you get started up ot. In MA we have 10-11' tidal swings, and in parts of ME it's even more, so the ramps are steep, and sometimes wet and/or covered with algae. I've seen plenty of 2WD vehicles that needed help to get up the ramp. Don't forget to set the parking brake when you back down, or even better, set wheel chocks....A couple of seasons ago a guy in Marblehead sank a new Grand Cherokee up to the roof.

Not necessarily. Most sailboats have lead keels and sit high above the trailer in the wind stream. And some sailboats are towed stern-to. The only manufacturer I've seen include frontal area to the calculation of tow capacity is Ford trucks.

http://www.geocities.com/vstromboston/prius_tow.jpg ..........

What town do you live in? Our cars are less than $100 in Boston. the first year always seems like more. Excise tax varies in NH, but has been over $400 for the cars we have there. I'll say this though, motorcycle insurance is way less in most of NH.

Congress st, Salem, MA

We have five company cars. We register three of them in MA because it's cheaper than registering them from our Manchester office. NH doesn't have sales tax but the excise tax charged by the towns is about 10 times higher than what we pay in MA. So if you keep the car a few years it's about break-even.

You two must not be married. They "need" a big truck the way you "need" an LGT.

Well, I lived in Germany for almost three years so I'm familiar with how they tow things. My only knowledge of towing in the UK was the First Gear segment on Caravan camping, which was quite funny. In they US they would have been ticketed in every jurisdiction they passed through. The broadly observed rule of thumb here is that you can fairly readily tow a trailer that weighs as much as the vehicle - around 3,500 lbs for an OBW. Most manufacturers give a lower rating for manual shift cars. Ford trucks has a very detailed towing brochure that also takes into consideration frontal area and other factors. What you seem unfamilar with is some of the towing conditions here, where summer temperatures may reach 100 degrees F and there's a nearly 2,000 foot elevation change from here to NY over the Appalachians (the Rockies and other ranges are much higher). Last year while towing our power boat to Maine in hot humid weather - with a v8 cargo van - I had to shut off the air conditioning and turn the heat on full blast to keep it from overheating. The OP lives in MD, which has notoriously hot, humid summers. Sure you can tow with lighter vehicles - it's one of the reasons I got an H6 after having two H4's. But the larger, heavier vehicles can tow heavy loads without any decrease in longevity, and with almost the same mileage. Our Chevrolet Express van gets 14-15 mpg towing 3,000 lbs, has a 31 gallon fuel tank, large brakes, big mirrors, eight bolt rims, D load rating tires, tow/haul mode transmission, and auxiliary coolers galore. And it cost $20,511 brand new. It tows the Melges effortlessly. I know people who have towed an Etchells - a 30' sailboat weighing around 4,500 lbs - from Boston to NY with a VW MicroBus. That doesn't mean it's a good idea.

If the UK manuals have low range, that's a different ball game than for US models.

Because he and many of the Legacy GT owners have manual transmissions? I note the 3.0R is rated for 2,000 KG (4,400 lbs) but I'm not going there....that's what the Chevrolet is for!

Towing a lot with a manual is tough. Or I should say, trying to back up a trailer with a manual, or pull a boat up from a ramp is tough. People have towed J/24's - probably over 4,000 lbs - with Outbacks, but when possible I use our Chevy Express van, which has truck tires, heavy duty brakes, V8, 31 gallon fuel tank, big mirrors, etc. Are you sure the trailer is 3,000 lb?

Are you planning to tow locally, or long-haul? In different markets Subaru gives tow ratings of up to 1,800kg (3,960 lbs) for the H6 and 1,500 KG (3,300) for the 2.5i and 2.5T. The US Subarus are geared lower (because the knuckle draggers only look at 0-60 time, not over-the-road performance) which should actually be better for towing. Not sure why the US numbers are so low. I'll get a trans cooler if I'm going on the road. I just bought a Melges 24, which is probably 2,500 to 2,800 lbs on the trailer - don't know how much the trailer weighs. A friend of mine with an H6 towed a similar boat with no problems, and I don't anticipate any. I'm looking on another site to pick a hitch.

LGT with NH "CELTX" license plate, driven by silver-haired woman. Going 70 mph or so in the LH lane of Route 93 for 5 miles or so just over the MA border last week. I believe she probably stayed in the LH lane all the way to Boston. She couldn't pull over due to the steady stream of minivans, Crown Victorias, semis, Prius', UPS trucks, and kids on bicycles passing her on the right.

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