Boost-Drive-Love Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I couldn't come up with a legit search result for this, just a small bit of information so I'll ask it in here, Pre-Purchase. Naturally boost is addictive, and for the 05-06 models, the Cobb AccessPORT has done the trick at making the stage 1 and 2 upgrade simple, and effective. Cobbs maps, as well as other venders selling custom maps were fine for the LGT 05-06 models which only have 1 OE-Map. As for the SI-Drive, well I belive it is 3 different maps, for operation in all 3 featured modes. Intelligent, Sport, and Sport# (sharp.) This will present the oppurtunity for Cobb, to revise their AccessPORT to provide 2 if not 3 new maps for the 07+ SI-Drive LGT. I assume: 1.) They may leave the Intelligent map, just as it is to provide best econmy, and upgrade the sport, and Sport# maps to "stage 1" and "stage 1.5" actually, because if you have 3 positions to dial in, you're going to want to modify the maps, so the performance still increases two times, not just once. 2.) They could simply Tune a map for Sport# mode only, and leave the other Two, Intelligent, and Sport drive alone? That would probably eliminate the need to upgrade their AcessPORT unit, because it would esentially be doing the exact same function, to alter 1 map only. Or 3.) They could potentially alter all 3 maps, which I won't even get into, because that would be highly unlikely, but anything is possible. I just wondered if anybody had any information on this thought, and or knowledge of possible products which will allow the 07+ SI-Driven vehicles to do staged upgrades, just as easily as the rest of the LGT crowd? Immediatly after our 07 arrives, I'm going to want to be stage 2 via all mods associated with stage 1+2+ECU reflash w/ custom tuned map(s.) I hope Cobb has something up their sleeve which I do not yet know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm not so sure about the 3 modes being 3 entirely different maps because it does not appear that there are any actual power changes with each mode. It might be that all are running off of one base map and that the SI drive is controlling 3 real-time maps that only adjust minor things like the Throttle Position Sensor to increase or decrease responsiveness. If Cobb is able to use the SI drive to choose different maps, then I'm sure it will be possible to change all 3 of them. My main concern is how long it will actually take them to release AP's for the '07 models considering their track record for new products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-Drive-Love Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thats basically what my concern is, how long will a product take to come out. I guess I could live with stock power for half a year or so, but if the ball isn't rolling by middle of next year, I'm going to have to find another way to make more power. STI SI-Drive swap? We shall see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA81 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 We shall see I guess. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Why do that when you can just upgrade to the JDM SI selector knob... It's 5-axis NC machined 6061-T5 aluminum, with a clear annodize. This will act as a heat-sink and help keep the circuits cooler allowing your SI drive to operate at maximum efficiency! Keep a look out for Cobb's new Water-to-knob heat exhanger for max power at the track! The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Why not give Cobb a call and get it right from the horses mouth, I'm sure they will be working on it, just depends when it will be ready. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I already contacted them about this. So far they do not know if they can use the knob but as soon as they get their hands on an 07 they will look into it. I better get props for the idea... yea right. I emailed them about it as soon as I heard about the Si drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallispec Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 until the '07's actually start showing up --- i think all we'll be able to do is guess. Hopefully they can do something with it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaNdSuKkA Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Just as Casopolis said, they won't know till they get ahold on an '07. Subaru is secretive and won't pre-release any models to aftermarket companies like Cobb. They have to wait just like the rest of us. So considering that, it will be quite some time till 07 mods come out. But on the bright side, you can really get a feel for the 07 that way when you mod, you will truly know the difference. If you buy a new car and a month later mod it, you won't really get that "Oh Sh*t!" feeling. know what i mean? The mods will come, all in good time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-Drive-Love Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 I dig, I thinks actually a good thing. I'd like to get that "Oh shit, there is more power" feeling haha. It will probably come just in time, for me to get sick of the stock power too! Good thinking, and I'll be doing research on the SI drive system in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Uhhhh guys....the '07 are out....we've already got them at our local dealer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-Drive-Love Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 You have the I or the GT ? I have seen the I not the GT on the lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 You have the I or the GT ? I have seen the I not the GT on the lots.GTs are on dealers' lots now. SI-Drive is basicly three different sets of base maps (in Cobb-speak) for boost, spark, fuel and ETC. I doubt there's enough RAM for three different sets of realtime (in Cobb-speak) map sets. I expect that Cobb will have to chose a single mode (likely Sport #) for which their realtime maps work. That implies that realtime maps like Anti-Theft won't work as they did in the past. BTW, I understand the Sport # is disabled until engine coolant temperature rises above a certain threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-Drive-Love Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 I'm sure just leaving the car at idle for 5 minutes or so, before driving as I usually do anyway will bring it up to temperate pretty quick, especially in this summer heat. I told my other half she is only to drive in intelligent mode, haha. She wasn't to thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinjockey Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 '] SI-Drive is basicly three different sets of base maps (in Cobb-speak) for boost, spark, fuel and ETC. My understanding was that the only thing that was really changed by SI-Drive was the throttle response and no much else (certainly not boost since overall power is the same!). E.g. Intelligent 100% pedal ~ 75% throttle, Sport 100% pedal ~ 100% throttle, Sport # 75%+ pedal ~ 100% throttle. '] I doubt there's enough RAM for three different sets of realtime (in Cobb-speak) map sets. I expect that Cobb will have to chose a single mode (likely Sport #) for which their realtime maps work. That implies that realtime maps like Anti-Theft won't work as they did in the past. +1 '] BTW, I understand the Sport # is disabled until engine coolant temperature rises above a certain threshold. Hmmm, I guess I'll have to go test drive a GT around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisS Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 My understanding was that the only thing that was really changed by SI-Drive was the throttle response and no much else (certainly not boost since overall power is the same!). E.g. Intelligent 100% pedal ~ 75% throttle, Sport 100% pedal ~ 100% throttle, Sport # 75%+ pedal ~ 100% throttle. The SI-Drive controls the electronic throttle system’s response and fuel and ignition curves to modify engine torque characteristics, changing the performance character of the car in each mode. With "Intelligent" mode selected, the system reduces engine torque and maximum power and switches to a more relaxed throttle response curve. Subaru Intelligent Drive (SI-Drive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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