colatkitty Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Do you anticipate any problems with water? I don't think there will be a problem with water, since the fender well area is covered. In order for it to hydrolock, the whole cone filter has to be submerged, and I don't think that's going to happen. I'm lucky to not to have to worry about it too much. I live in sunny CA ... For those of you who missed the other thread, here are some pics of results of stage 2 before and after the AEM install with protune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Not exactly true. The temperature of the air going into the motor reaches an asymptote, namely ambient temperature. The intercooler already gets the air pretty close to ambient when the car is moving. The good thing about a cold air intake is when the car is not moving or the intercooler is heat soaked. It also helps flow a little bit. If you have an intercooler that can reduce the charge air back to ambient, then it is 100% efficient. The best you can get with an air to air cooler is about 15 - 20 Deg C above ambient. Water to air coolers are more efficient and can get lower temps. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mcrue Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Well, I ordered a AEM yesterday, and upon hearing it is quiet and has a very low filter location, I ordered a K&N Typhoon kit today. So, I will have 2 intakes, and prob. will install the K&N, I'd be rich if my OCD didn't get in the way so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy2005 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 someone needs to do an objective comparison of the two intakes to see which actually functions better and provides better hp/tq/mpg Work hard. Play even harder. My Garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mcrue Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I don't have any way to compare, just install one then the other? No dyno or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinRoo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 OK as promised here are the pics. Sorry for poor quality but it is night out. Thanks very much for posting the pics... the install looks awesome!! With the pics and the description of the sound and the dyno charts, I'm sold! "I love the feel of wind in my face and boobies against my back." - BMW motorcycle rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I would have been too untill I saw the test conditions in the chart below. THat is a big temp diference! Here that change in ambient I feel like I did a re-tune. Still need to see that same test done with SIMILAR conditions between tests. Don't get me wrong, I love the intake setup just not the result and as stated, a shop or someone with access to both intakes should do an objective dyno test. both done before testing and both afterwards with individual re-tune! I see how clean my engine bay is and I see how dirty behind the bumper gets so I'm to guess that it will get dirty in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDM-STI Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I'm sure you clean your engine bay much more than the backside of your bumper. 05 STI CGM~520whp/463wtq...more to come! 08 STI Aspen White/Gold BBS~305whp/365wtq:D Both tuned by Scott Siegel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcbjr Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 If you have an intercooler that can reduce the charge air back to ambient, then it is 100% efficient. The best you can get with an air to air cooler is about 15 - 20 Deg C above ambient. Water to air coolers are more efficient and can get lower temps. I only said that ambient was the asymptote, meaning the temperature never reaches it, but approaches it. I forgot what I was supposed to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmundu Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Matt, When can we meetup? You too Dave? I have to check this intake out! Really want to hear if it can pass the wife test.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Can someone datalog this intake with the AP Stg 1 aand Stg 2 without retune? I do clean it but not as much as with my STi. Cover takes care of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I would have been too untill I saw the test conditions in the chart below. THat is a big temp diference! Here that change in ambient I feel like I did a re-tune. Still need to see that same test done with SIMILAR conditions between tests. Don't get me wrong, I love the intake setup just not the result and as stated, a shop or someone with access to both intakes should do an objective dyno test. both done before testing and both afterwards with individual re-tune! I see how clean my engine bay is and I see how dirty behind the bumper gets so I'm to guess that it will get dirty in a heartbeat. Am I not readind the dyno right? Looks like a good drop in ambient and a great HP/TQ increase. Red is with the stock airbox and blue is with the AEM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yes, but such gains can be had with drops in temps. Try running my car here and take it to NY and run it there. It will be faster as the weather gets colder. So, gains could not be as big as the chart says if the weather wes the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Edmund, I am usually always around the basking ridge area and could meet up anytime really. It would be tough for me to get up to wayne with getting back to work and all tomorrow. But believe me unless she is REALLY picky this would pass the wife test. My GF didn't even hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airindia33 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I have the HKS bov(free) and the AEM CAI(on-order), will i hear the whooooosssshhhh a lot more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mcrue Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Instead of starting a new thread, thought I'd add to this one. I installed my AEM intake on my Legacy yesterday, it's stock except for a custom cat back, resonator-less with 2.5" y'ing to 2.25" and DNX mufflers, fyi. Well, anyways. I do think it sounds nice, not over bearing, with the radio on, can't hardly hear it, unless you are really getting on it. As far as performance, I'd say I gained a little, and I mean a little. Maybe a little throttle response, and some gain at higher rpms', but not a ton. I never did the intake silencer-removal mod like some guys, so I did notice quite a bit of noise increase. Just thought this would help. I also have a K&N coming next week, so I'll give that a try, and sell which ever one I don't like. I wish I had more to say about it, it looks good, and sounds good. Just my $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 log the AEM if you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mcrue Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I wish I could, AP is on the list, as are better tires/wheels, just giving my impressions of the intake I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I don't think there will be a problem with water, since the fender well area is covered. In order for it to hydrolock, the whole cone filter has to be submerged, and I don't think that's going to happen. I'm lucky to not to have to worry about it too much. I live in sunny CA ... For those of you who missed the other thread, here are some pics of results of stage 2 before and after the AEM install with protune. i hope your not serious, lookslike the filter is low enough to suck in water, the whole filter does not need to submerged for you to suck up water... i have know a lot of people in socal, thinking they are not going to suck anything up, because is doesnt rain a lot in socal, and needed a new engine after the rainy season. get a bypass filter, and have piece of mind Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mcrue Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Yeah, it is a concern of mine also, the filter is pretty far down into the fender. But, I've never had a problem with my open element on my Airaid, just for a comparison, maybe cars are different though: http://tinypic.com/ka1sgo.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 can someone get sound clips of this intake...i cant really have it too loud, wife sucks Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Anybody have any remarks on this intake and how loud it is? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 It isn't loud at all. I took mine off until my tune though It is way way quieter then all the short rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 It isn't loud at all. I took mine off until my tune though It is way way quieter then all the short rams So, pass the wife test? Cruising on the highway w/o radio do you notice it? Where did you get yours from again? I wonder if it is similiar to AVOs CAI? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Is a CAI a worth while mod? I usually hear that people would rather do other things then buying a cai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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