Spud0 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Closed on an Abyss Blue Limited with a few options. Being built. October delivery date. Off lease ( and six month extension) of a 2016 premium. Intrigued by the turbo but not at 4 grand more. Dealers must be factory incented as cost was slightly below invoice. Drove a base limited. A little more pep, quieter, great interior and better bolstered seats. Outside pretty much the same except for huge trunk opening. Loved the 16 hope I do the 20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 Subaru finance will not extend my lease until the new car arrives. Dealer indicated that with an order number they would. Oh well... riding shanks' pony is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Dealer called and said car built with a delivery date of Oct 11. Subaru elves working overtime or lack of demand? Will post pics Questions: how long to wait before waxing? Going to replace fog light bulb with a Yellow bulb. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painless Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I'm debating the 2020 at this time. Just like you, currently have a 2016. Curious about your thoughts on: - Infotainment (Looks like a hassle to do simple things, bigger screen=even more sun glare?) - Front looking camera (can it be used at any speed, is it useful?) - Stop/Start (I already don't care for this) - Facial recognition (useful?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jMeG Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'm debating the 2020 at this time. Just like you, currently have a 2016. Curious about your thoughts on: - Infotainment (Looks like a hassle to do simple things, bigger screen=even more sun glare?) - Front looking camera (can it be used at any speed, is it useful?) - Stop/Start (I already don't care for this) - Facial recognition (useful?) Facial recognition isn't iPhone responsive but worked respectably in the demo vehicle. Any screen will have glare. A bigger screen will usually have more glare. Tesla, Toyota (in the Prius Prime), and other manufacturers haven't had massive problems with similar systems. The front camera is AMAZING for parking. I've used one on a Ford Explorer for years. You'll use it often if you live in the burbs. You everyone should know that unless the front camera has an integrated windshield washer sprayer, it will likely be useless during the winter. I hate Start/Stop and have disabled it in every rental car I've had with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 More updates after it arrives Had same glare concern with info screen. Wasn't able to fully play / adjust screen Stop start was not smooth so it may go off A lot of positives over a good 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painless Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 What are your thoughts on the Direct Injection engine that is in the 2020? Our 2016 came with Indirect Injection (helps clean the valves). I drive 50k/year and worry about carbon buildup. Was this a topic of discussion during your sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 Increased HP was touted as a benifit of DI. He also mentioned an improved oil flow upgrade that would help clean valves. Not a big issue to me as its on a three year lease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Dealers must be factory incented as cost was slightly below invoice. Not necessarily. Subaru traditionally has given dealer's credit for a 2% hold back, 2% marketing, and $200 floor plan below invoice on all cars. (They also get a credit for gas but that doesn't really count.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jMeG Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Not a big issue to me as its on a three year lease. You're leasing a Subaru!? Aren't the lease rates terrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbr Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 You're leasing a Subaru!? Aren't the lease rates terrible? I have the same question! Does Subaru have preferred leasing with Costco, X Plan, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 The money factor/ lease rate is much worse then three years ago. I do not know if Subaru / Chase is worse than others. Would expend on the car. I know that they have purchase agreements with various organizations but am unaware of leasing agreements. Was told they only lease through Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Does anyone have bulb information for fog and running lights for the 2020 legacy premium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuff Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) Most of the bulbs are LEDs so Subaru's not publishing info. Saying "Consult your SUBARU dealer for replacement." The only exterior ones listed are tun signal (7444NA/WY21W front/rear) and backup (W16W). The 7444NA is dual element so might be half marker (running). Edited September 25, 2019 by Stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 I checked the PDF manual and found the same " contact your dealer" advice Well at this time the dealer dozen't know either. Contacted Subaru who said contact your dealer. Just sent a return email asking that someone in Subaru should be able to reveal this state secret. Just want nice yellow fog lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 This is what I received from Subaru customer service re the fog lamp bulbs: There is no part number for the fog light bulb that we can provide to you, because the LED bulbs are not individually replaceable. If the LED fog light does not illuminate, then the entire assembly needs to be replaced. Has anyone heard of this type of set up? No yellow fogs for me it seams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Could do Lamin-x overlays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painless Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I really hope that an inoperative fog light will not require replacing the entire assembly. Checked here: https://parts.subaru.com/productSearch.aspx?ukey_make=5806&ukey_model=89998&modelYear=2020&ukey_driveline=53362&ukey_trimlevel=107087&searchTerm=fog Looking at the picture, it might be a standard H11 style bulb. If so, just go aftermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 Thanks for your replies. The Lamin X would be an option. Although they do not show one for a 20 The parts list link indicates that fog light assembly fits the 18,19 and 20 Legacy It does not show an attached bulb. Safe to assume that it would take the same bulb as the 18 and 18 Legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 Still waiting Was to be here on the 11th Dealer was kind enough for to provide a loner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieN8 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I was told that Subaru has slowed production, due to the recent quality issues. They're slowing down to focus on being better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 New delivery date 10 22 Still searching for fog lamp bulb type Side window deflectors on back order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTG Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 If it is LED Fog, it will in deed be a one piece unit. You can not swap the "bulbs" out in those units as the whole thing is just one piece. On that note, I can't believe no one has taken delivery of a Legacy on this forum yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nereus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 TTG: I am trying to take delivery but my 2020 Touring XT won't be in until December. Nereus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud0 Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Car is in! Pick up this Friday. Side window deflectors also in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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