BoozeRS05 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 So Pennsylvania has 15 year classic car status...I did just renew the registration back in November. I am highly debating re-registering as a classic. I have another car as daily. Pros: Emissions exempt, one time registration fee that covers the life of car, it'd be cool to rock the classic tag Cons: restricts me to limited use, unsure the insurance effect PA is no longer issuing the actual classic plates. If you have one already (any of the different plates) you'll be allowed to keep it, but there won't be any different plates produced in the future. All they'll issue is the standard plate with a "Classic/Antique/etc" notation I believe, info via the DMV 3 months ago. EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDaveLGT Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Oh my lord that's a thing? How much does something like that run? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's pretty reasonable in my opinion. It's $74.99 per seat belt plus the cost for you to ship them to MA. They gaurantee a 24 hour turn-around from the time they receive, lifetime warranty, and meets all federal certifications/requirements. They can even do custom orders. https://www.safetyrestore.com/content/74-colored-seat-belts#SeatBeltColors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlight Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Ghetto-man's test of that would be to wire up the circuit as described (resistor from pin 1 to ground), and measure the voltage across the resistor as you spin the corresponding hub.... You could also wire the meter in series with the resistor and measure current, but if you're not familiar with that measurement, I would avoid it. Have you ever replaced the axles? I've read about aftermarket ones causing issues with the wheel speed sensors occasionally, and sporadically. Thanks, that's a good tip. I have replaced the axles but they are rebuilt OEMs so it shouldn't cause and issue. I was able to order a new front-right sensor for $30 shipped yesterday. If that doesn't solve it I'll try your spinning method. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk muFreight.co A JDM Container Sharing Service from Japan to NYC Website | Instagram | Email Bessie II's Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylew Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 PA is no longer issuing the actual classic plates. If you have one already (any of the different plates) you'll be allowed to keep it, but there won't be any different plates produced in the future. All they'll issue is the standard plate with a "Classic/Antique/etc" notation I believe, info via the DMV 3 months ago. Wait so a car can be registered "classic" but there is no way of knowing until you check the paper registration? That is sad for the flex but great from the stand point of driving it more than "limited use" Wagon is LIFE! - 265,000 miles and climbing Unofficial Build (Restoration) Thread Steering Rack Rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Maybe a notation on the plate saying 'Classic' or 'Veteran', but no more unique plates, period, in PA again. Was thinking about it for my wagon, and that's what they told me. EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Wait so a car can be registered "classic" but there is no way of knowing until you check the paper registration? That is sad for the flex but great from the stand point of driving it more than "limited use" What exactly is "limited use?" I'd be pretty grumpy if I rebuilt a cool classic and registered it and they told me I could only take it to church on Sundays. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 It's pretty reasonable in my opinion. It's $74.99 per seat belt plus the cost for you to ship them to MA. They gaurantee a 24 hour turn-around from the time they receive, lifetime warranty, and meets all federal certifications/requirements. They can even do custom orders. https://www.safetyrestore.com/content/74-colored-seat-belts#SeatBeltColors looks like a "ideaweb" post Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I'm looking at the manual now and it says to use an oscilloscope to diagnose. I remember reading elsewhere on the forum that someone replaced one sensor and it cleared the other sensor codes as well. I thought I might start by buying one sensor and trying to isolate the problem that way, but each corner has a different part number. I have done ECU resets already. My feeling is it's the front passenger sensor (at least) as I let the brakes hang on by that sensor by mistake. This is theoretical but still... It should be a simple Hall sensor. Meaning that you can cause it to close or open using a strong magnet with sensor out. The scope will show you signal as the wheel is turning at 2.5MPh where the magnet ring in the back of the wheel hub causes the sensor to react. Take the sensor out of the hub and have a multimeter to measure the connectivity between pins on the connector - I believe it connects somewhere inside the engine bay. Then use a strong magnet (old speakers used to be my goto when I was a kid) and see if the circuit opens if it was closed, or closes if it was opened. If you have OBDII adapter then the code may be tell you which sensor it is as well. I know SSM does. 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 249K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 272K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubOperator Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Have you ever replaced the axles? I've read about aftermarket ones causing issues with the wheel speed sensors occasionally, and sporadically. Legacy OEM are unlikely to do that due to design of outer cups, but the aftermarket ones may - if the sensor protective ring is too close it may rub on the sensor and tear through it with time. Eventually the conductors inside the sensor get exposed and are shorted more and more often, throwing codes with increasing frequency, especially in damp/rainy weather. Went through this issue with Tribeca which has OEM CV axles that cause protective rings to bent outward over time and rub on the ABS sensors. 2005 LGT Wagon Limited 6 MT RBP Stage 2 - 249K 2007 B9 Tribeca Limited DGM - 272K SOLD - 2005 OB Limited 5 MT Silver - 245K SOLD - 2010 OB 6 MT Silver - 205K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylew Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 What exactly is "limited use?" I'd be pretty grumpy if I rebuilt a cool classic and registered it and they told me I could only take it to church on Sundays. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It says 1 day a week and no passenger use, but I see that as more more of a suggestion and especially if there is no longer special plates to designate classic. I need to call my insurance and ask them how my car would get handled if it is tagged classic before I make my decision. Wagon is LIFE! - 265,000 miles and climbing Unofficial Build (Restoration) Thread Steering Rack Rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 It says 1 day a week and no passenger use, but I see that as more more of a suggestion and especially if there is no longer special plates to designate classic. I need to call my insurance and ask them how my car would get handled if it is tagged classic before I make my decision. 1 day a week is going to be limited mileage. Your insurance could deny your claim based on a number of parameters. I'd read the fine details before re-interpretating it Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylew Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Yeah I fully plan on diving deeper and being fully educated on the matter before pulling the trigger but on the surface it sounds like a potential route. But I like the car too much to play fast and loose so I am going to make sure it is properly covered and tagged for the use it gets. Wagon is LIFE! - 265,000 miles and climbing Unofficial Build (Restoration) Thread Steering Rack Rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I love my summer wheels (raijin w/ 245/40/18 z2) but this car drives so much nicer on 17” with narrower tires. I really need to invest in a good set of lightweight 17’s with sticky rubber. "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDaveLGT Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 looks like a "ideaweb" post Done! Also thought I'd share for those interested. Moore Power had a 5MT blast plates group buy over the holidays. I reached out after their stated deadline and they sent me an invoice and stated a few spots were still avaiable. Current price for the blast plates is $269. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkinslow Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 That's a great price. I traded an extra d-shaped gt-spec steering wheel for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDaveLGT Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I know, I wasn't even sure what their current commitment/price level was at when I reached out. There was a guy selling a set on the Indiana FB group for $300 that sold in what seemed like a few hours and I was seriously close to buying those since I thought that price was almost to good to beat. Edited January 7, 2020 by DoctorDaveLGT grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinkly Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) done! Also thought i'd share for those interested. Moore power had a 5mt blast plates group buy over the holidays. I reached out after their stated deadline and they sent me an invoice and stated a few spots were still avaiable. Current price for the blast plates is $269. i'd also love to get their cast twinscroll divorced downpipe flange, but can't justify that when i have a perfectly fine DP already. probably wouldn't get it all to fit under the OEM covers anyways. Edited January 7, 2020 by Flinkly * Build Thread * 26.53 MPG - 12 month Average * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORULZleggy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 What exactly is "limited use?" I'd be pretty grumpy if I rebuilt a cool classic and registered it and they told me I could only take it to church on Sundays. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In Missouri Classic /historic car plates have restrictions. Be 25 years old or older; Owned solely as a collector’s item; and Used for exhibition and educational purposes. To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation; To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit; and Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use. It's not really worth it if you like to drive, or built it to drive and not be a garage queen. I was not able to find the classic car at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Jeez those are harsh. I remember thinking the classic plate was really cool growing up in Florida, idk if it had all those restrictions but you always saw people in beaters driving around. And we didn't have safety or emissions as is. At this point I just want a black plate with white letters. We almost got them in utah. Maybe next legislative session they'll revive it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Dealer told me my LCA bushings were torn.. so I ordered a pair of aluminum LCAs from Rock Auto. Is there anything else I should do while underneath replacing the LCAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Rumor has it that the lca bushings in the mevotech arms don't last long a year or two. If you got the money and time, pop those bushings out now for whiteline ones. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I bought the MAS parts, I just read about the Mevotech arms here.. any thoughts on the MAS? Is MAS the same company as Mevotech? I'll still look into the Whiteline bushings. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonamedude Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don't see mas for the 05 lgt. I saw mas elsewhere for an 04? Sure you got the right parts? What's the part number? From what I've gathered, it seems like the lower control arm rear bushings just wear out easily and are not easy to change when it's on the car. I'm sure others have better info though Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 yeah I bought them about 9 months ago.. I didn't have a garage to work on my car so it sat in my pile for 9 months.. MAS CB72084 MAS CB72083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos22B Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I love my summer wheels (raijin w/ 245/40/18 z2) but this car drives so much nicer on 17” with narrower tires. I really need to invest in a good set of lightweight 17’s with sticky rubber. How's the fitment with the Raijins and those tires? Any rubbing at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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