j255c Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Im in the market for buying new tires. I have roughly 9500 miles on my car and am contemplating between the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S or the Kumho ECSTA ASX. I've been buying tires from the same place for over 10 years and can get pretty good deals on them. Obviosly i would choose the Avon Tech's but they are not available to any other tire dealership except for Tirerack. When i spoke to the guy ive been dealing with for my tires for the past 10 years he said the Continental ContiExtremeContact are noisy and wear rather quickly. So its a choice between the Pirelli's and Kumho's. What does the legacy crowd feel is better a/s tire. And yes i will be driving up to VT to go skiing this winter in my Legacy GT! Thanks for your input. 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCdob Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 PZero Nero M+S I've heard nothing but good with these no mater the conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 PZero Nero M+S I've heard nothing but good with these no mater the conditions +1 I have had a set for over a year and I am very happy with them. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I had the Kumhos and liked them a lot. Never tried them in snow but they were excellent in the rain and dry. I haven't tried the PZero's so I can't provide a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Well living in VT I can say BFGoodrich T/A's are awesome all season high performance tires and thats what I would recommend. Where do you plan on skiing? JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted October 6, 2005 Author Share Posted October 6, 2005 Killington 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCdob Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Killington I'll be there too We should do a Subaru mountain meet over the winter. You know "Slide n' Drive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Dude get the nokians!! if you live in VT you will love their winter/snow performance and they kick butt in the wet as well.. Nothing but rave reviews on nasioc and other places i have found.. Decent price to if you jump into the members section for the "group buy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 If you are going to see real snow, get some snow tires. The all-seasons are good on modest amounts of snow and plowed roads, but for the real stuff I would want snows. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hmmm yes I think we will have to try for a ski day at Killington JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 The Pirelli's will spank the Kumho ASX's. The ASX has soft sidewalls. Check this out from Tirerack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/kumho_ecsta_asx.jsp Other good tires are the Toyo Proxies 4. Great tractions...only complaints are some guys don't like the noise when turning...due to tread design and finding the right tire pressure. Another is the Falken Ziex 512. Not the performer of the Pirelli or Toyo, but better winter grip. http://1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Falken&tiremodel=Ziex+ZE%2D512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I wouldn't say it got spanked...not nearly as bad as some of the other ones in the comparo. Good thing I didn't buy the Conti's last time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 im telling you get the NOkian WR's all seasons.. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20044 user review from another forum.. http://snowtire.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9&highlight=nokian+wr I did some research on the web and found that all of the tires meet ther Severe Winter Service standard. If a tire does not meet this, I don't bother looking much further. Beyond that, all I can give is hearsay and personal opinion. Personal Opinion: For real snow conditions, go with the Nokians. Having driven 8 other brands of snow tires in the past 3 years, I still think Nokian has a bit of an edge in both overall balance of the tire and snow performance. All of the other tires have been good, but the Nokians have been just a bit better. Hearsay: All of the tires seem to be well spoken of. I can't find much direct comparison, but I did find several other voices that have converted to Nokian. Pure Balderdash: Pirelli is from Italy, where it is warm. Bridgestone is from Japan where is temperate. Nokian is from Finland, where it is bitter cold. You draw your opinions from there. Smile - John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Well it snows in Korea as well:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSiWRX Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 If you're going to see serious snow, the Nokians would be my choice for top-contender as well. It's going to be a trade-off against the Pirellis' dry-grip, but it really sounds like you'll need the sure-footedness in snow that the Nokians would offer. <-- I love Winky, my "periwinkle" (ABP) LGT! - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges '16 Outback, '16 WRX, 7th Subaru Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 yeah i want to see how the nokians do in the dry, i know wet and snow they rock. I have seen several people state that the dry performance is similar for the re92's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 How can you even compare the Kuhmo to the Pirelli? They are in a totally different price range. When I purchased my Kuhmo's I paid 126 per tire for 235/40 18 The Pirelli was almost 60 more per tire:eek: Get the Kuhmos & spend your savings on a good set of springs:) Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I had the Kumho's last year. They are okay, but nothing special compared to other choices out there. Tires.com has free shipping and a rebate on the Pirelli's right now....comes out to $$482 vs $$452 for the Kumho's in the size I need. I think $30 is worth it to get Pirelli vs. Kumho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I will agree, only a 30.00 difference..... go with the Pirelli;) Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 next Q is size. 215/40/18 is closest at 24.8 to the OE rolling diameter of 24.6 inches, so ther performance won't be affected. The more common 225/40/18 is 25.2 - tire weight is the same, so it's about cost and availability. Proxes 4 and PZero Nero M+S have both and price is about the same between sizes. Dry handling - a wider tire is better. Rain and snow - narrower would be more effective as the tendency to float is reduced. The last is load - stock tires are 1201lbs per corner. The Pirelli's are 1135lbs while the Proxes 4 are 1279lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_j Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 im telling you get the NOkian WR's all seasons.. I am curious how much of a downgrade in dry performance these are on a LGT in the summer. We had them on Civic previously and loved them but it was not a handler. I wonder if they are equivalent in the dry to the RE92's? They are an absolute dream in winter or wet conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 all the reviews i have heard is that they handle about as well or a slight bit better in the dry then the re's i will find out in a week or so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 had the pirelli zero neros installed this weekend, couldn't have asked for better conditions. Slipping on sliding on the ride there because w/ my re92's it was DUMPING rain, on the ride back gripping the road and smiling . 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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