I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 5, 2017 I Donated Share Posted October 5, 2017 Thanks for not being a **** head about it either! Guess you only joined for the post counts [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] mom look at my post count! I have friends! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkMy post count is high because I had two LGTs over 4.5 years. You had one for, what, 3 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Post-count doesn't go up at all in the General Forums. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF1GG29 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 They all exist... There's only one that I can buy new in the States, unfortunately. I don't need another 10-year old car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocklgt Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 So after test driving a 00' outback limited 5 speed with a jdm 2.0l swap and for some reason walking away (i know i know, only $2,000) I decided to stop into Ford otw home and found out Focus and Fiesta ST are getting some serious rebates for 2017 models. Something about a white Fiesta ST with a roof and recaros for 22K out the door is super tempting. Seriously considering it. A far cry from the SS 1LE I had my heart set on, but with that $3000 rebate and these guys really wanting to get these things out the door, I am hard pressed to find a more fun, better car for the $$. Once the LGT is rebuilt it will be a weekend car for sure, and at best i'll hold onto it until next summer, so i'm really thinking this FiST is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 12, 2017 I Donated Share Posted October 12, 2017 So after test driving a 00' outback limited 5 speed with a jdm 2.0l swap and for some reason walking away (i know i know, only $2,000) I decided to stop into Ford otw home and found out Focus and Fiesta ST are getting some serious rebates for 2017 models. Something about a white Fiesta ST with a roof and recaros for 22K out the door is super tempting. Seriously considering it. A far cry from the SS 1LE I had my heart set on, but with that $3000 rebate and these guys really wanting to get these things out the door, I am hard pressed to find a more fun, better car for the $$. Once the LGT is rebuilt it will be a weekend car for sure, and at best i'll hold onto it until next summer, so i'm really thinking this FiST is the way to go. Depreciation on those sucks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DugsSin Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 One of our "car guy" friends just purchased a Fiesta ST in Magnetic gray, he's very impressed with the little thing. Worthy of serious consideration if it fits your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojorios Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Those little things seem like they can really move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVAKeith Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 How do the FiST compare to the FoST? Local ford dealers have new base FoSTs for $18k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocklgt Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 can't believe they have the focus for 18K!? I mean granted no recaros but still a pretty nice car for the $$. I think base price on those focus with the incentives in NY are still 22.6k without taxes. Some people like the recaros, some don't. I came from an Evo X and thats honestly about the only part i miss about that car. From what I hear FiSTs handle a little better because they weigh less, but also come with around 60 less in the HP and tqe depts. What colors do they have in stock? might just have to do some business in VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVAKeith Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Three different dealers, so hopefully they aren't bait and switch prices. Black: Check out a 2017 Ford Focus ST - $17,692 on CarGurus at https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/176973826 Magnetic Gray: Check out a 2017 Ford Focus ST - $18,062 on CarGurus at https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/185932510 Kona Blue: Check out a 2017 Ford Focus ST - $18,062 on CarGurus at https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/186426669 White: Check out a 2017 Ford Focus ST - $18,217 on CarGurus at https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/186716238 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a12214279/genesis-twin-turbo-v6-g80-sport/?src=ign_ai&mg=roa&dom=fb Seems nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Same engine will be in the Kia stinger. Can't wait to drive one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a12214279/genesis-twin-turbo-v6-g80-sport/?src=ign_ai&mg=roa&dom=fb Seems nice Yeah, just not anywhere near the LGTs pricetag. 3.3T AWD starts at $57.5K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yeah, just not anywhere near the LGTs pricetag. 3.3T AWD starts at $57.5K. Yeah but it is way above the LGT in all kinds of ways...tech, refinement, size, power...take one for a drive and you will be able to tell where the money was spent. Different class of vehicle completely, personally I would wait for a nice used one that will drop that price nearly in half, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Same thing like BMW/Benz price drops like crazy. Same with a few models of Porsches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBPeik Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yeah I would have a real hard time paying 60k for a highoneday My someday I will be done with it thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yeah but it is way above the LGT in all kinds of ways...tech, refinement, size, power...take one for a drive and you will be able to tell where the money was spent. Different class of vehicle completely, personally I would wait for a nice used one that will drop that price nearly in half, lol. Well, sure.. But, $57.5K is HIGHER than MSRP for RS3/S4, just for starters, depending on what you're after. Pretty much at the same level as 540i/AMG C43, loaded MKZ with 3.0TT @ 400 HP is around $50k, etc.. ATS V-sport with 100 more HP starts around $61-62k (and you know they go out the door with a significant discount). Charger SRT 392 is also around $50k (if you just want a big V8). Lightly used LS460/GS F (2016 w/ 10-20k miles) are available in the high $50s. That's the problem I see - this is their "we're just as good as all the other starting-luxury/sporty brands" model - except they've always made their $$$ on giving MUCH BETTER value than the competition up to this point. Now, they're giving you EQUIVALENT value, and asking you to "choose Hyundai". btw, Kia Stinger's supposed to start around $47k, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Well, sure.. But, $57.5K is HIGHER than MSRP for RS3/S4, just for starters, depending on what you're after. Pretty much at the same level as 540i/AMG C43, loaded MKZ with 3.0TT @ 400 HP is around $50k, etc.. ATS V-sport with 100 more HP starts around $61-62k (and you know they go out the door with a significant discount). Charger SRT 392 is also around $50k (if you just want a big V8). Lightly used LS460/GS F (2016 w/ 10-20k miles) are available in the high $50s. That's the problem I see - this is their "we're just as good as all the other starting-luxury/sporty brands" model - except they've always made their $$$ on giving MUCH BETTER value than the competition up to this point. Now, they're giving you EQUIVALENT value, and asking you to "choose Hyundai". btw, Kia Stinger's supposed to start around $47k, IIRC. And that is why I will never buy a new Kia or Hyundai, but a used one is where I think the value is at. The ATS is a smaller car, the Charger is not in the same class and probably is the only car that drops in value faster than the Kia or Hyundai. The Lexus I will give you, super nice luxury and built to last, but it still isn't in the same performance realm and it has a thirsty V8. So the Audi, Lexus, very nice comparisons but on the used market especially a 2 to 3 years old I would be the Kia Stinger or Genesis G80 will be cheaper with nearly the performance and a better warranty. And with a car this complicated that matters to me. Cadillac is bottom of the list in reliability and for the prices they are charging I wouldn't even consider owning one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 And that is why I will never buy a new Kia or Hyundai, but a used one is where I think the value is at. The ATS is a smaller car, the Charger is not in the same class and probably is the only car that drops in value faster than the Kia or Hyundai. The Lexus I will give you, super nice luxury and built to last, but it still isn't in the same performance realm and it has a thirsty V8. So the Audi, Lexus, very nice comparisons but on the used market especially a 2 to 3 years old I would be the Kia Stinger or Genesis G80 will be cheaper with nearly the performance and a better warranty. And with a car this complicated that matters to me. Cadillac is bottom of the list in reliability and for the prices they are charging I wouldn't even consider owning one. What funny is the Cadillac ATS-V is what I rather have. My experience is that GM products are easier and cheaper to repair long term than the European brands. Cadillac wouldn't surprise me if its low on the reliability list. Lexus would be a maybe in my book but they are more expensive. (I don't compare CPO to new cars) ATS-V is a better value. I agree with the Charger and not interested. I have absolutely no interest in owning a Korean car. I mostly agree with your assessment but I came up with completely different preference and opinion. We are all entitled to have their own point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLlegacy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I am not convinced I would ever own a Kia or Hyundai either but they do interest me, especially if Subaru remains bound and determined to put a CVT in everything they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syndicate Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 ...with the SS going away I'm all over the place, the Kia Stinger looks promising but the A6 3.0T Competition package and even the Durango SRT (hey I've got a family to move around ) seem interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 New BMW X2 actually seems pretty interesting, if there's enough legroom in the back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahkenaden Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 It's funny how no matter what strides in quality, reliability, and performance Kia/Hyundai make, all you hear is "I'll never own one". Well, I've owned 3. They're solid if you maintain them. Aside from the GenCoupe's failure of a manual trans (which they replaced with a newer revised model on their dime, out of warranty), never had a hiccup engine wise. Now I agree about the used value, etc. I'll never buy another car new LOL. I don't have that kind of money to piss away. Soon as that Stinger comes on the used market, I'm snatching one up. Saw it at the Detroit auto show last year and was hooked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeny1701 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I just traded in my S5 for an S6. The Audi's are very nice, but I definitely wouldn't spend the premium to get one new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 26, 2017 I Donated Share Posted October 26, 2017 Different class of vehicle completely, personally I would wait for a nice used one that will drop that price nearly in half, lol. Or more. My wife's 2013 Veloster Turbo, purchased in 2014, is already in the four figures for trade-in, so it has lost ~60% of its value in 3.5 years. Luckily we got it for below invoice and had a paid off (but older) trade, so we're not upside down. And she is planning to keep it for at least a few more years. What funny is the Cadillac ATS-V is what I rather have. My experience is that GM products are easier and cheaper to repair long term than the European brands. Cadillac wouldn't surprise me if its low on the reliability list. Lexus would be a maybe in my book but they are more expensive. (I don't compare CPO to new cars) ATS-V is a better value. Have you ever sat in the back of an ATS? They are tiny. With the driver's seat adjusted for me to drive, I literally can't get in the back. My legs don't even fit between the seat bottom and the front seat. ...with the SS going away I'm all over the place, the Kia Stinger looks promising but the A6 3.0T Competition package and even the Durango SRT (hey I've got a family to move around [emoji38]) seem interesting. There are still a few manual SSes left on dealer lots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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