MrTris Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Did I miss something? Is trans coming out, too? Isn't this just a motor swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrTris Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 OP, FWIW, my rebuild was 4mos, and, going on threads from those behind me, apparently that's a record. Good news is, you keep this up -- day by day, paycheck by paycheck, part by part, bolt by bolt, you'll be an official member of the #igansb club. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 It's just the motor. But I do have to get the valve body and center diff apart too. Valve body for IPT as said before. Center diff because new ClimberD bearings are downstairs waiting to go in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMileHighLGT Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Did I miss something? Is trans coming out, too? Isn't this just a motor swap? Maybe you did miss something. I only suggested pulling the front axles to make it easier to access the trans bolts that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Maybe do these two things separately, so as to make troubleshooting easier once things get back together? Have you decided on a new turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 It's just the motor. But I do have to get the valve body and center diff apart too. Valve body for IPT as said before. Center diff because new ClimberD bearings are downstairs waiting to go in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh man. I missed this as part of the goals. Did you get the new bushings from him recently or have them on the shelf for a while? I did see a post from him a little while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudSeed777 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 As mentioned above, one of these will work wonders on the trans bolts. I also found that a long extension with it will help a lot from the bottom. Soak the heads with PB blast and let sit over-night before another go. On my first pull, for some of the bolts I got under the car and held the wrench on the bolts while someone loosened them from above. http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_222337001?hei=832&wid=832&op_sharpen=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 JmP already has my turbo. It got to him earlier this week. Bushings just got to me this week. He just had them done. I definitely need to go get a knuckle like that. It's one ratchet piece I don't have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Cool! Plan on installing yourself? Really curious as I have yet to get into the Transmission and Diff at this stage. It's nice to hear Dave is still up and around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Wanted to post a reply to keep things alive. I'm on the road for two weeks so there's been no progress on the car itself, but JmP does have my turbo complete! I can't wait to get it back. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/09/785886feae1b957731b63db93861b447.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaresmk Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 The block comes out today. Accomplished so far: 1. Damn heater lines are off. 2. Front tires off. 3. Fuel lines disconnected. 4. Radiator off. Axles next.... Having an ASE Certified Master Mechanic over for the day is nothing but win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Cover that condensing unit with card board now if not already done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Cover that condensing unit with card board now if not already done... Just for the sake of getting the block out? Cause it's done been out for hours. Just haven't made a big post update yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 All good. But yeah. Just because. Good deal getting the motor out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Some major progress this weekend here comes a nice big post for you... As I mentioned in my quick post yesterday, I had an ASE certified master mechanic over for the day that I work with and he was, obviously, a major help. He had both some key knowledge and tools to help move things forward. I also went to Harbor Freight on Friday and picked up their 301 piece mechanic's set. Its come in handy already for sure. Seems to get great reviews and for $160 bucks I am pretty happy with it so far. Started Saturday by removing a few small bits on the top of the engine that I had issue with before moving to the wheels and axles as suggested in order to get to the bolts holding the block to the transmission. These were not super easy to get out. The axle nuts did not want to slide out and we ended up ruining them both by banging on them but that's a pretty cheap replacement. I think both axles probably need some rebuilding. The outer boot on the right side is definitely shot. IMG_0949 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr PRO TIP: It isn't totally clear from the drawings in the FSM, but the bracket from the AC compressor has to be removed and attached to the engine in order to lift it. Using the technique of just setting the compressor to the side of the engine bay rather than opening the system, its easier to detach the compressor with this bracket still attached. You'll need to go back and take this bracket off and reattach it to the block. IMG_0951 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Wrapped fuel lines in an extra latex glove to keep them from dripping too much. IMG_0952 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Those were about the last thing to detach before the block was ready to come out. IMG_0954 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0956 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0957 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr The torque converter really felt the need to come out with the block. Still gotta get it lined back up so it will seat back where it belongs. IMG_0958 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr We then muscled the engine into the house. Once there, I started taking lots of photos for myself so that I would know what it looked like before parts started flying off. IMG_0961 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0964 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Took me some time, but the intake manifold finally came off. Dealing with all those fuel lines and rails was a bitch and a half. I tried to get things off in groups so that three or four hoses attached to something solid will go back on all at once and make more sense. Hopefully it doesn't matter what hole each injector came out of because I sure as hell don't know which one fell out of where. Oops. IMG_0974 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0975 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Getting the fuel lines past this oil hard line was not easy but they needed to come off first in order to remove this one later. Would have been easier had the timing belt been off but it isn't yet. Whatever. IMG_0977 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Next thing I did, just for the heck of it I suppose, was take off one of the head covers. This is the right side cover. Can we tell anything about the condition of the engine from this? IMG_0981 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0982 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Then got the crossover pipe and TGVs off along with some other small pieces. This is how she sits right now. IMG_0987 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Parts shelves are getting really full. Wanting to get my hands on my fun new bits, I also went ahead and matched up most of the silicone lines with the rubbers they will be replacing. I'm writing on my cardboard shelf liners to help keep track of stuff. IMG_0983 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0984 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0985 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr IMG_0986 by Team 1 Group Development, on Flickr Next thing I need to tackle it would seem is the timing belt. I've done a timing belt once but it was with a lot of coaching and I didn't want to miss marking anything before starting to take it off. I will also be going to update the OP tonight with recent purchases to keep my running tally of parts and costs going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayInVA Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 What kind of rope did you lift that engine out with? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 What kind of rope did you lift that engine out with? lol Just a basic piece of climbing rope. Fisherman's bend on one end and a figure 8 on a bight on the other. I've been climbing for about 15 years and I do adventure based activities and team building for my business with everything from kindergarteners through adults so I have lots of little pieces of rope hanging around for activities. Its plenty strong enough. You could haul the whole car up by the frame on a piece of climbing rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nice job so far - Getting the engine out is a big accomplishment! I'm not entirely certain, however, I have heard that the trans pump gets borked when the TC comes out with the motor. I don't have any resources on how to look into that -- Perhaps someone else can chime in on that? VCs look good, as do your heads and cams. Looks like this engine never missed an OCI, at least not, by much. Mine looked MUCH worse. T-belt comes off super easy. Just start unbolting shit. Once it's loose, take it off. Now prepare yourself for the carnage that is the cam bolt removal. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRoadtrippin Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 I'm not entirely certain, however, I have heard that the trans pump gets borked when the TC comes out with the motor. I don't have any resources on how to look into that -- Perhaps someone else can chime in on that? That's not so encouraging. If it is trashed, what would replacing that entail? Is it a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 That's not so encouraging. If it is trashed, what would replacing that entail? Is it a big deal? Like I said, it's just something I've read here. Can't say for certain, which is why I'm hoping others will chime in and confirm or deny this with a bit more certainty than I can, and maybe point you in a direction for remedying that mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 There would be a ton of threads with that outcome if it was the case. I had the same thing happen and was able to seat it again after the motor was out of the way. Need to pull and replace the seal. Any threads on pulling the TC out of the 5eat and such would be appreciated. Not just for me but anyone that has had the TC walk out with the motor. What do you do after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudSeed777 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Awesome job. I kinda cringe seeing the PS pump sitting on your headlight - wrap that sucker in a rag to keep it from scratching stuff! Also, my TC came out a bit with the motor on both pulls. Nothing bad came of it. I put in a new pump seal on per JmP and had the TC all the way out to drain it, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Awesome job. I kinda cringe seeing the PS pump sitting on your headlight - wrap that sucker in a rag to keep it from scratching stuff! Also, my TC came out a bit with the motor on both pulls. Nothing bad came of it. I put in a new pump seal on per JmP and had the TC all the way out to drain it, etc. Why use a rag when you can use Mr.Tris's custom solution http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=204608&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1426304866 My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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