Canon20D Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 But starting it with the cap off would be about as close to a new cap as needed to rule that out, yes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not sure, think about what the cap dose. It must hold some pressure in the tank, the system is looking for a condition that it is not finding, so it will give a CEL. I don't fully understand the system so... but think about it... FWIW, a friends OB, she was being told it had bad cat's, someone said to replace the gas cap...fixed it. No more CEL. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Isn't the cel for loose gas cap as in air is getting into the tank? I know on my DD, leaving the cap off forces the car to run tests to see if I am running 87 or 93 octane leading me to the next question. Another late entry pardon me. When you hand your cash or credit card out the window, do you actually observe what fuel grade button being pressed? Every single time I got my gas off base they would ignore what I just said and fill 87 telling me it's all the same. My MPG hasn't changed using base gas and I rather run base gas than the PA turnpike selections. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't you pump your own gas in town ? I know NJ you can't, that's why I try never to buy gas there, the lines are way to long on the Garden State and 95. When we have to get gas the guy seems to push the right button, 93. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't you pump your own gas in town ? I know NJ you can't, that's why I try never to buy gas there, the lines are way to long on the Garden State and 95. When we have to get gas the guy seems to push the right button, 93. To the best of my knowledge I never found a self serve pump in NJ. Reason why I usually get gas on base because every single time I would get 87 no matter what. The 1st time I handed them like $10, I realized the gas needle moved too much. I was on fumes and that motor was running about 17 city so I wasn't making it to base from the hotels I stay at. Sent from my iFail 5s using Tapatalk app 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FknBoss Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Jersey law is your not aloud to pump your own gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzr750r1 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Jersey law is your not aloud to pump your own gas. Oregon as well... Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squad51 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I grew up in SoCal my whole life and had no idea there were places you couldn't pump your own gas... Until a road trip I took to Vancouver in my early 20's. Stopped at a station in Oregon somewhere, pulled up to the pump, swiped the card, began pumping. The attendant came out and absolutely freaked out and berated me the whole time the tank was filling. I tried to be nice and apologize at first but the guy was having a breakdown over it, apparently he thought it was common everywhere and I was doing it on purpose to HIM. When I was done filling I said Hey, I said I was sorry, take it easy man, really- you pump gas for a living, It's not that serious! That didn't diffuse the situation for some reason and he threatened to call the police on me. That's how I learned about Oregon gas pumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 :spin: My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I grew up in SoCal my whole life and had no idea there were places you couldn't pump your own gas... Until a road trip I took to Vancouver in my early 20's. Stopped at a station in Oregon somewhere, pulled up to the pump, swiped the card, began pumping. The attendant came out and absolutely freaked out and berated me the whole time the tank was filling. I tried to be nice and apologize at first but the guy was having a breakdown over it, apparently he thought it was common everywhere and I was doing it on purpose to HIM. When I was done filling I said Hey, I said I was sorry, take it easy man, really- you pump gas for a living, It's not that serious! That didn't diffuse the situation for some reason and he threatened to call the police on me. That's how I learned about Oregon gas pumping. I learned when a NJ person made it to NoVa and couldn't figure out how to work the gas pump. I thought I was on hidden camera when they asked me how it works. Once I got stationed there I realized why that is. At least NYC nobody relies on cars because if subway so I could understand not even having a license. Sent from my iFail 5s using Tapatalk app 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FknBoss Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Lol the funny part about it is I work at a Toyota dealer off 78 in pa about 1 hour from jersey. And 3 times a month we have a jersey person limping their car in and they put diesel in. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Reason I said I don't even trust who pumps gas to pump my gas. Any updates on a few fuel cap? Sent from my iFail 5s using Tapatalk app 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon20D Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Always check who pumps it to put in prem. I was out of state for a few days so nothing yet. Last time I did pump the gas when I started it and it lit up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon20D Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Also want to replace fuel filter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 i was in NJ and the guy hit the 87 button before asking me what I wanted. I sort of overreacted, making it very clear that he can't put 87 into my car, and he claimed he was just "setting up the pump" and then asked me if this was the turbo model, which i said yes, and he said his VW (can't remember which model) was turbo too and he needed the higher octane. Merc6 - don't put 87 in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc6 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 i was in NJ and the guy hit the 87 button before asking me what I wanted. I sort of overreacted, making it very clear that he can't put 87 into my car, and he claimed he was just "setting up the pump" and then asked me if this was the turbo model, which i said yes, and he said his VW (can't remember which model) was turbo too and he needed the higher octane. Merc6 - don't put 87 in your car. Both my cars are tuned for 93 octane. When I say base gas, I'm referring to a military base/post. 2005 Satin White Pearl Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Unlimited 5EAT (Project Car) 2019 Agate Black Ford Explorer XLT 4WD (DD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I went back and reread your posts and now I follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-BGTLimited Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Never any definitive solutions to these problems... Two topics now with the very same symptoms I'm having. Replacing the gas cap today but also inspecting my charcoal canister and solenoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon20D Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 I occasionally get the p0457 which is usually the gas cap but can also be fuel pressure issues. Wondering if that's part of the problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 i was in NJ and the guy hit the 87 button before asking me what I wanted. I sort of overreacted, making it very clear that he can't put 87 into my car, and he claimed he was just "setting up the pump" and then asked me if this was the turbo model, which i said yes, and he said his VW (can't remember which model) was turbo too and he needed the higher octane. Merc6 - don't put 87 in your car. I kid you not I thought about this last night as I wondered how would they know what to put in, as you know they are all about speed on the njtp I figure I would say what octane I want before paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I grew up in SoCal my whole life and had no idea there were places you couldn't pump your own gas... Until a road trip I took to Vancouver in my early 20's. Stopped at a station in Oregon somewhere, pulled up to the pump, swiped the card, began pumping. The attendant came out and absolutely freaked out and berated me the whole time the tank was filling. I tried to be nice and apologize at first but the guy was having a breakdown over it, apparently he thought it was common everywhere and I was doing it on purpose to HIM. When I was done filling I said Hey, I said I was sorry, take it easy man, really- you pump gas for a living, It's not that serious! That didn't diffuse the situation for some reason and he threatened to call the police on me. That's how I learned about Oregon gas pumping. Jesus he should of given you a break.. that happened to me somewhat.. just crossed over into NJ from ny and did not know.. I got as far as undoing the gas cap.. I saw a water tower in the distance that said NJ.. I got back in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufa turtle Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Purge solenoid not closing all the way. Engine sucks in all the vapor after fill up. Codes are usally small leak or in correct purge flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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