KFCConspiracy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Anyone have DBW tables tweaked at all? My throttle response feels a bit lazy. The power's definitely there, but there's just some kind of laziness if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Did you just install a new map? Or did you reset the ecu? "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCConspiracy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I did a installed a new map about 5 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 The laziness should only be during the "learning" period. Log and send back to tuner. Coincidentally, i will be logging today. Car feels better. And today should be nice and warm for logs. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The laziness should only be during the "learning" period. Log and send back to tuner. Coincidentally, i will be logging today. Car feels better. And today should be nice and warm for logs. Whats this "nice and warm" you speak of? Here in the northeast such a thing doesn't exist anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCConspiracy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Log and send back to tuner. I'm supposed to log today anyway because our roads finally dried out. Tuner's Rob so hopefully he can mess with it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Whats this "nice and warm" you speak of? Here in the northeast such a thing doesn't exist anymore Unfortunately it was a cool 73 degrees... I wanted a hotter day...90's would be ideal as I want my tune to be optimal for a hot track day. Not sure if that makes a lot of difference or not. There is airflow, temperature, and atmospheric pressure. I don't think there is any accounting for humidity with any part of the engine management. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Correct, IAT temp is taken into account (just a bit, to tweak MAF readings based on implied air density and then more widely when the AAT and IAT delta is something like 90F-100F or more) but humidity is not taken into account by the ECU based on any of the sensor inputs. Once out IAT passes about 100F, timing is pulled about 1 degree globally every 10-15F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Sooooo...what happened at AMR? I am all ears NVM...I thought it was today and I read your post about posponing to next week... "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Moving the ECU ID vs MY conversation to this thread. I pinged a few members with 2010 3.6Rs and faded replied that his ECU is stock. Now I'd need to figure out how to see if its a match to mine and how we can back it up. I also had another idea which I ran by AMR Rob. Since we know Ecutek encrypts stock or any other exports of ECU images but does have my stock image in this encrypted form, perhaps it would be possible to work around the encryption limitation by: 1. Taking the Ecutek suite exported ROM (per car) 2. Using Ecuteks software suite to flash it back into the ECU (here Im assuming this removes the encryption, because its a going-back-to-stock process) 3. Without running the engine, use Tactrix or another cable/tool to now pull the stock ROM off the ECU (avoiding the use of Ecuteks suite will prevent it from being encrypted). 4. Flash back the latest Ecutek tune over the stock image in the ECU. 5. Store/Submit the un-encrypted stock ROM to the ROMRaider/OpenECU forum for definition... with the main goal of just getting the logger address definitions for basic and enhanced SSM parameters so they can be reflected and logged in BtSSM - drastically expanding its features for 5th gen H6s. And also opening the door for more opensource tunes for our cars (including TCU/TCM tuning). Edited March 13, 2015 by Perscitus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstg8r Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I pinged a few members with 2010 3.6Rs and faded replied that his ECU is stock. nadracer has a tuned 2010, maybe his tuner has a backup of his stock ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Open RomRaider Go to standard logging and click TCU. Tel me which TCU you have and I can tell you what ECU ID you have Only thing EcuTek encrypts is preventing a CAN Read/Write(which I can walk your tuner through turning off if they want to access the ROM in EcuFlash)That would be great Tim. In fact its Rob from AMR. Can you reach out to him and explain what he'd need to do? I know what ECU ID I have - info and image below (but I will give the TCU scan a try). The ECU is just a tad different (older) from the 2010 3.6R defined on ROMRaider. Most of the logger addresses seem to work perfectly fine, some do not... which sent me and heiche back to the drawing board to expand SSM expanded parameters support in BtSsm for the EZ36D H6. My 2010 USDM 3.6R ROM: Calibration ID: DE5F200B ECU ID: 5B2B364007 http://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11549 Closest 2010 USDM 3.6R ROM defined over @ ROMRaider: Calibration ID: DE5F201B ECU ID: 5B2B367007 http://www.romraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=11076 Edited March 14, 2015 by Perscitus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Does anyone with access to vacation pics or just knowledge of the topic know: a. What's the cylinder #-scheme configuration for the H6 EZ36D? Cars101 shows the Plug firing order: 1-6-3-2-5-4, so based on that I'm thinking its most likely: Bank 1: 1, 3, 5 Bank 2: 2, 4, 6 Instead of: Bank 1: 1, 2, 3 or 1, 2, 3 Bank 2: 4, 5, 6 or 6, 5, 4 b. Which cylinders are part of Bank1 vs Bank2? I'm assuming Bank1 cylinders are those that fall on the same side where Cylinder #1 is located, so perhaps this: Bank 1: 1, 3, 5 Bank 2: 2, 4, 6 http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/Kostamojen/EZ36D.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/Kostamojen/08tribengine.jpg Edited March 14, 2015 by Perscitus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 I cant believe we are in same tech as 2008!!!! "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 It is the order of cylinders from front of engine so Airbox side is Cyl 1/3/5 and battery side is 2/4/6Thanks Tim. Matches what I thought and makes most sense in terms of layout and plug firing order. Would you mind dropping AMR Rob a note about the ECU ROM encryption. I will be up at AMR within a week or two and we could try what you suggest to get the non-emcrypted stock ROM image out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillitupp Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Hey guys , got my raptor headers installed today along with a custom y pipe, and lwcp! Rob has the stats and said he will post. I have a couple of photos that I'll upload in a bit Edited March 16, 2015 by Phillitupp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perscitus Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hey guys , got my raptor headers installed today along with a custom y pipe, and lwcp! Rob has the stats and said he will post. I have a couple of photos that I'll upload in a bitGreat news! I've seen AMR and AutoMaster's latest labor of love and it was good. On the 7th day AMR rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillitupp Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/2580925493c64879550aedbbf58ac4bd.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillitupp Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/af67855addd5bed34a66f963ca56cb3c.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/f69e91eed23f1955b42b2e50b90bea8e.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/55fe0a5849b4e0756c0aa6a31ca48356.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewind Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Raptor hopes to share pics of the V2.0 headers in approx 2 days time The work above looks excellent! How does it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillitupp Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 They're great by far the best investment made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCConspiracy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Raptor hopes to share pics of the V2.0 headers in approx 2 days time How different are these going to be? Just different manufacturing or different design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golferdude1087 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Its starting to sound like Dr Allan Grant from Jurassic Park was right. Raptor is starting to become the dominant force on the earth ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrik94087 Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 I may be able to get on the old dyno. The shop next door is working on taking it over (Borrelli Motorsports). Their shop manager tells me I may be able to use it next week. This woukd be great as I have a baseline before the Boomba TB and new tunes. I have a second rev tune for the TB. Seems a little smoother. "It's within spec" - SOA "Depth is only shallowness viewed from the side." - Fredism "So, how much did it cost for your car to be undriveable ." - Stephen (very close friend) "You have done so much it would be stupid to go back." - Sunny of Guru Electronics 2018Q50RS | 2015WrxThread | Shrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenc1703 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Catless? How was that? Any issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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