s2baru Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) I've been posting for a few months now and had the opportunity to come across a thread started by OUTBACK AUTOMOTIVE located in Auburn,WA. They wanted a few 5thgen LGTs to begin modding because of our different turbo setups, so I got in contact with them and heres whats all been done...pics will follow later ENGINE/EXHAUST Outfront Closed deck 2.5L block, Sublet Machine shop, block, resurface flywheel, fit rods, balance, polish crank Sublet Nitrous Coating for pistons/skirts x4 King bearing Sets Mains + Rods Manley, Valve Spring and retainer Kit GSC, Viton 6mm Valve Stem Seal Set Killer-B, Subaru Windage Tray Subaru, Engine Gasket Set, 10-12 LGT Clutchmasters, FX300, push type turbo Cosmetic Head Gasket, Subaru EJ25, 100mm bore, .040" 2 ARP, Head Studs JE Piston Set, STD 99.5mm Manely Turbo Tuff Connecting Rods GSC Stage 1 Cams, 08+ STi Cosworth Subaru EJ Timing Guide Manley....Extreme Duty 33mm exhaust Valves (+1mm) Manley....Race Master Intake Valves, 37mm (+1mm) Sublet Machine Shop, heads, fit new cams, radial valve cut, reset lash, install viton seals, oversize valves, blend bowls, performance springs. 70lbs seat 180lbs @ .420" Oil pump, JDM STi 12mm SubaruOil Cooler, 10+ LGT Gates Performance timing belt kit Power/Engine/Exhaust COBB ACCESSPORT RACERX TMIC...thermal coated INVIDIA CATLESS DOWNPIPE..custom 3inch. mid split to 2.25 PERRIN WRX 08+ AXLE BACK MUFFLERS Suspension/wheels TEIN STREET BASIS Coilovers (sold to UnSpokN). Now HKS HypermaxIV 8/2015 KARTBOY FRONT/REAR ENDLINKS WHITELINE FRONT 24MM SWAY BAR WHITELINE REAR 22MM SWAY BAR KARTBOY POSITIVE SHIFT KIT... KDT901 KARTBOY REAR DIFF FRONT MOUNT BUSHING ..KDT905 KARTBOY REAR DIFF IN MOUNT CRADLE BUSHING ...KDT903 KARTBOY REAR SHOCK ASORBER BUSHING...W0505 KARTBOY LOWER INNER FRONT CONTROL ARM BUSHING...W0506 KARTBOY ANTILIFT/CASTER CONTROL ARM INNER REAR BUSHING...KCA334 GROUP-N 5MT TRANS MOUNT MEGAN RACING 08+ WRX REAR LOWER CONTROL ARMS MEGAN RACING 08+ WRX TOE KIT Wheel setup: One off custom Forgestar F14 in sunset orange 19x9 +35 ordered from Moore peformance Nitto Motivos 255/35r19 ...minor pull on front and -2 camber for rear COSMETIC; flat blacked out front headlights, 20tint, stock wheels painted black, led interior lights and turn signals, RALLY BaysonR JDM replica lip (colormatched) Smoked vinyl rear taillights ARMOR FLAPS. Prova raingaurds 6/15 http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af38/stu-nami/S2BARU/download_20150423_200842_zps3yiiifbr.jpeg[/url]http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af38/stu-nami/20130727_120318_zpsc0d95f9b.jpg Edited September 27, 2015 by s2baru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL21376 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhawk222 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice numbers s2baru!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nothing quite like a dynojet to inflate those numbers Looks good though, I'm sure its fun. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT For ME Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 #s or not 5th gens are tq monsters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 +1. Other 5thgens on here have close to those numbers, but ill give some credit to the tmic since not many people have that yet, and JohnJohn being a good tuner. If e85 was a practical option for me I wpuldve pushed for that but became unrealistic for me. The thing I'm most impressed about is how UNBELIEVABLE it handles now. The torque for sure deffinately pulls it out of a corner like crazy compared to before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptiecloud Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Nice! Did you guys look into going with the full Invidia? EDIT: you might want to lift those #'s from your profile- they may confuse some h8trs Edited June 21, 2012 by ziptiecloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ya I know what you mean . Personally I don't like the sound of the full invidia system, that's just me though. The axle backs were only 300$ so I got.a great deal on those awhile back and perrin sounds more sporty imo than throaty like the invidia. Ill have to take a sound clip soon. I think you should deffinately make it over there now and see what they can do for ya. Ill be at the BigNorthwest meet so it'd be great to see another 5thgnlgt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nothing quite like a dynojet to inflate those numbers Looks good though, I'm sure its fun. With fewer modifications I put down 290hp/350tq on a mustang dyno. I don't think his numbers are that unrealistic. The joys of a 5th gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuccims Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 congrats on the stage 2+. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 With fewer modifications I put down 290hp/350tq on a mustang dyno. I don't think his numbers are that unrealistic. The joys of a 5th gen Thats great for you. What CF, altitude, and temp was that at? This dyno appears to show 250-ish hp/tq on a stock tune, which is incredibly high. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuccims Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thats great for you. What CF, altitude, and temp was that at? This dyno appears to show 250-ish hp/tq on a stock tune, which is incredibly high. Different 5th n 4th gens, same dyno http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1122&rgb1=000000255&runid2=796&rgb2=204000000&runid3=504&rgb3=000153000&runid4=1119&rgb4=153000255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thats great for you. What CF, altitude, and temp was that at? This dyno appears to show 250-ish hp/tq on a stock tune, which is incredibly high. Not sure about CF, but temp was around 70 and altitude is around 600 ft. 250ish does seem high for a stock tune but the majority of 5Gs are near this on many different dynos. It seems to be pretty normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Not sure about CF, but temp was around 70 and altitude is around 600 ft. 250ish does seem high for a stock tune but the majority of 5Gs are near this on many different dynos. It seems to be pretty normal. Thats cool man you should be in the high 12s 1/4 mile then. I'll look forward to you posting your slip lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Different 5th n 4th gens, same dyno You're showing us an extraordinarily high reading dyno that is reading slighly lower than OPs dyno? Like I said, I'm sure its a fun car, but the dyno is a bit high. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandborn Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Look forward to setting mine up similar... My goal is 300whp..... your # give me positive hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 The baseline could be partially scewd due to having the axle backs on at that time but that can't be much there. The graph you posted is right within range of where I was. I couldn't tell ya the temp alt etc. But seattle isn't the highest place that's for sure and weather is mild. I'm not too sure if ill ever get a run down the strip this summer but a high12 -low13 would be about right from runs I've seen others post. Quickest has been 12.2ish? I believe on e85, don't hold me to that thouh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Different 5th n 4th gens, same dyno http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1122&rgb1=000000255&runid2=796&rgb2=204000000&runid3=504&rgb3=000153000&runid4=1119&rgb4=153000255 You're showing us an extraordinarily high reading dyno that is reading slighly lower than OPs dyno? Like I said, I'm sure its a fun car, but the dyno is a bit high. Um no. EFI's dyno reads low. Like an ej22 awd OBS makes 63hp. I know one person who has a 405whp ej207 gc on ECS's dyno... that only made 361whp on EFI's. Both mustangs, 50 miles apart from eachother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Um no. EFI's dyno reads low. :lol: lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 subaru.com: 265hp / 258 ft-lbs. efi dyno (average of two 2010 LGTs): 253hp / 240 ft-lbs. So that's about 5-7% drivetrain loss from an AWD drivetrain... ok you're right thats a low reading dyno... :lol: lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuccims Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 It's always fun to see the bitching over the posted numbers. :spin: The delta from stock thru each of the mods is the best comparison of importance. Op is posting nice gains for his car. Axlebacks adds are substantial, and the OP also has a 3" DP. Below is an example of same car, stock to axlebacks. http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1075&rgb1=000000255&runid2=1076&rgb2=204000000 The next, different car is stock, to Stage I, to Stage II. http://www.efilogics.com/dyno/graph.php?gb=0&hp=1&torque=1&rpm=1&sl=1&sln=1&runid1=1121&rgb1=000000255&runid2=1122&rgb2=204000000&runid3=1296&rgb3=000153000 IGNORING ALL TOP NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT THE DELTAS GAINS ...... is show form stock to Stage I and Stage I to stage II. From the several tunes with the Rx TMIC posted from Stage II to Stage II+, the TMIC is consistently delivering 18-24 HP gains across the board above Stage II. Add 20 HP to the second chart below, for delta to Stage II and this is about what to expect with the TMIC. http://legacygt.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=547&pictureid=4881http://legacygt.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=547&pictureid=4879 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckseleven Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 subaru.com: 265hp / 258 ft-lbs. efi dyno (average of two 2010 LGTs): 253hp / 240 ft-lbs. So that's about 5-7% drivetrain loss from an AWD drivetrain... ok you're right thats a low reading dyno... :lol: And yet the majority of 5gs show very similar numbers on different dynos at different locations under different conditions. They seem hight but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuccims Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 subaru.com: 265hp / 258 ft-lbs. efi dyno (average of two 2010 LGTs): 253hp / 240 ft-lbs. So that's about 5-7% drivetrain loss from an AWD drivetrain... ok you're right thats a low reading dyno... :lol: The 5th gens are all over the map. 214 HP is also posted for stock baseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2baru Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share Posted June 22, 2012 Didn't realize the pot would boil, another 4thgens input where its not needed. I'm never one for a batlle, just wanted to share with the 2010+ owners since our mod paths are going to be different and figured the graph would be benicial for a great tuning shop and US 5thgen community. Since we don't have quite the development yet from supporting manufactures this is the best for route I went for my personal goals. In reality fyi 91oct.mapping is for that and slightly conservative tune since a little more timing could've been done for more gains, but they felt it was unessecary. Thanks for the backup miniccums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1055 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 You canget laugh all you want, take your car there. See how it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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