MJ in PA Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Frankly, the new Legacy design just doesn't lend itself to a performance model. Unlike the previous gen, the car just isn't sleek or sporty looking at all. Might as well make a Spec B version of a Toyota Avalon or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelflight Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 God I would love to see a WRX STI sedan. I can't stand that hot hatch thing they have out now. My only choice if they dont come out with a L-STI or LGT-B is a STI sedan. I love the Lines and the look of the 05-08 LGT and the only reason I want the Spec-B is for the tranny and what i can do to it. I may have to buy a older LGT (05-07) and just stab a STI Drive train in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 It will come... just wait. STI Sedan that is... Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelflight Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 That would be cool. I would rather have the Legacy tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeding_gaijin Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 They don't have a Spec B for 2010 model, not even in Japan. They have a type S, which has a body kit, Bilstein suspension and 18 inch rims. It probably has many more additions, but I don't know all of them. Now the question is: when we gonna see a tuned by Sti model?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 They're out already. Bill Kolb has 'em. Subaru now calls them "Elite" rather than spec B. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05pearl Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 ^ this http://subarulegacyelite.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 They're out already. Bill Kolb has 'em. Subaru now calls them "Elite" rather than spec B.Oh..... god..... no.... Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I heard that, due to poular demand, SOA is bringing back the BL/BP chassis for the 2011 Spec B. The article I read said that it would have 305bhp from the factory and come with HID headlights. A wagon version will also be available. I will post a link to the article when I locate it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bdubs Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I heard that, due to poular demand, SOA is bringing back the BL/BP chassis for the 2011 Spec B. The article I read said that it would have 305bhp from the factory and come with HID headlights. A wagon version will also be available. I will post a link to the article when I locate it again. Zomg. With auto down windows on all 4 doors, and a sunroof with one touch close too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhook Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 ^ this http://subarulegacyelite.com/ Dear god, I thought that was a gimmick. Only Bill Kolb would honestly go to the effort to attempt to poorly and cheaply "pimp out" a vehicle aimed at 50-60 year old women. Sad . . . just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Frankly, the new Legacy design just doesn't lend itself to a performance model. Unlike the previous gen, the car just isn't sleek or sporty looking at all. Might as well make a Spec B version of a Toyota Avalon or something! G*DD*MN chime in with something other than sleek, sporty, bug eyes, etc. PLEASE! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 whassa matter? "YOU MAD"? Some of us want sleek and sporty, and want Subaru drivetrain under it. Plenty of companies offer transverse inline drivetrains... so you can kind of have your pick... not so much with Subaru. A really ugly Subaru ruins an option that isn't really available elsewhere. The closest would be to get an expensive used Porsche, or give up the boxer engine design, and get an Audi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 ok if the ugly argument is beat to death...how about no LSD, completely unsupportive seats, and a clunky, noisy, cable operated shifter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 ok if the ugly argument is beat to death...how about no LSD, completely unsupportive seats, and a clunky, noisy, cable operated shifter? VDC reacts quicker than the LSD. even the 08 WRX was able to track faster with than the previous gen with the same power. The zero LSD 09 WRX just blew the 3 diff STI away in C&D's lightening lap challenge. Seats are too wide... but so are every Subaru seat... and unlike every other Subaru seat... these are actually comfortable to sit in for any amount of time. The cable operated shifter is FAR quieter than the direct link shifter. you hear a lot less noise from operating it for sure. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTride05 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 What would be the huge dif between the 10LGT and a 11Spec-Bizzle? Both have 6MT Im curious what would really be the dif performance and price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 VDC reacts quicker than the LSD. even the 08 WRX was able to track faster with than the previous gen with the same power. The zero LSD 09 WRX just blew the 3 diff STI away in C&D's lightening lap challenge. Seats are too wide... but so are every Subaru seat... and unlike every other Subaru seat... these are actually comfortable to sit in for any amount of time. The cable operated shifter is FAR quieter than the direct link shifter. you hear a lot less noise from operating it for sure. First of all, it's complete BS to compare stats from last year to this year for two separate trim levels. What were the conditions like both years? They could've been optimal this year and abysmal last. Who was driving both years...same guy?...some magazine editor with little racing experience? Magazine tests are decent for comparing the cars in the comparison that day. The 2010 seats are very comfortable, for napping. I didn't take any hard corners but I'd imagine my butt and back wouldn't be too well planted. I have a La-Z-Boy at home. I don't want to pilot a car from one. I guess the shifter noise can be drown out by the stereo. It is loud though, much louder than my 05. If I buy a car that wants to be a big cushy cruiser, then I want it quiet. What would be the huge dif between the 10LGT and a 11Spec-Bizzle? Both have 6MT Im curious what would really be the dif performance and price? The 6mt in the 10 LGT is not the same 6mt that was in the past Spec B. It is a weaker unit from the EDM Legacy diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 The same track and it wasn't raining... Drivers can obviously make a difference... but two days of best runs from an STI were not enough to best the 09 WRX. Considering where all of the vehicles landed from both years... there really aren't any surprises other than the WRX beating the STI. I'm not too well planted in any Subaru seat including the 08 STI I own. And the shifter noise was definitely quieter in operation and less buzzy than the LGT, WRX, and STI I've owned. I was very capable of bombing the 2010 Legacy down my favorite backroads without ending up in the passenger seat. On the topic of the 6MT. A better explanation would have been that it's the same unit as the one found in your Legacy GT but with another gear added onto it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Rain or not, other conditions contribute to performance such as temperature, relative humidity, wind, etc. Anyway, there were other changes made to the 09 WRX such as stiffer springs and sways. The 09 WRX has 43% stiffer springs and 20% stiffer sways. CnD wasn't impressed with the 08 STi at all. None of their complaints stem from the differentials. From the 08 LL: The only real disappointment in this roundup, though, was the Subaru Impreza WRX STI. The new STI has a sophisticated all-wheel-drive system delivering lots of driver selectability, plus the 305-hp thrust of its turbocharged flat-four engine, which should add up to performance that’s at least on par with that of previous members of the STI series. But Subaru product planners wanted to broaden the STI’s appeal, making it more family friendly. So they made it hatchback-only (diminishing the structural rigidity found in a formal sedan) and softened the suspension. The racetrack result is lifeboat body roll, mulish understeer, reluctant transient response, and vague steering feel. That is mitigated to some degree by outstanding braking performance, and of course, the cushy suspension payoff is creamy ride quality. Chalk those up on the family side of the ledger. We already knew the 08 was a lot softer than before. We know what they were thinking on the 08s but it didn't work. Chalking up the differences in drivetrains is a little presumptuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 The STI is still way more track focused than the WRX. So despite all of the advantages including 2 more non open diffs and a much better center diff. The STI didn't fare as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeytl Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I'm looking to purchase an 09 Wrx sedan for my next vehicle. I really don't much difference with performance and handling between Wrx and Sti. Can use the extra money saved for modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Mickey... wait until the next model year before you buy either... otherwise you're going to kick yourself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 2011 STI sedan. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 More than that... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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