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Here's the Legacy:

 

Finally new pics of the body work done and wheels on. Bumpers and paint will be on next week and I can finally start driving it again.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego35.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego36.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego37.jpg

 

Johann @ Girodisc

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Okay after a long awaited time I finally have no more unforeseen inconveniences and I finally got to make some real progress this weekend.

 

I started with mounting the intercooler core. I decided that it would be easier to mount the bumper and then set the intercooler to the bumper instead of trimming the bumper to fit the intercooler. I have a perfect fit and the intercooler is exactly the right side for the opening. Fabed up a temporary core support so I could fab the intercooler pipes and locate the radiator. Once everything is mounted I will redo the core support into the final piece I want and then paint it.

 

As you can see the intake manifold has not been reversed and its because I wanted to keep A/C in the car for the long journeys to CA or where we end up taking it. It has plenty of power to run it so why not. Just because its a full blown racecar doesn't mean it can't be comfortable. :ritz:

There are 2 pipes, solid so there is less chance of failure and they are made from SS steal for added strength. 2.5" from the turbo outlet all the way to the throttle body and the pipes are pretty short even for not reversing the mani. The key was not having to run around the stock metal. I just ran the pipes where they would flow best and I'll build the sheet metal around it. The pipes are just tacked for now until the core support is finished and I can have them TIG welded.

 

Anywho sorry about the wait again but updates should be more regular now that I actually have time to work. I'll be finishing up the core support this week and then finishing up the exhaust this weekend. Then its off to wiring and suspension. I should be getting around to ordering the tire for it in a couple weeks to soon it will come off the lift and sit on its own weight.

 

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Johann @ Girodisc

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Here's the Legacy:

 

Finally new pics of the body work done and wheels on. Bumpers and paint will be on next week and I can finally start driving it again.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego35.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego36.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/lego37.jpg

 

Johann @ Girodisc

 

i am getting in love!! lol:wub:

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can i ask a dumb question....i like being unique with my cars and i can see you guys do too. i had a caprice wagon that got a hydrualic treatment and an rx7 that was rotted out completly but would beat most build v8s at the track. so if your putting this much money into these cars and doin all these unique things to them why not flip the intake manifold, ive only seen it done on one subaru and it would shorten your intercooler piping a bit. heres my 2 proud and joys that are no longer with me. sorry no pics of the rx7 engine or the actual hydraulic setup.

 

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There are a few reasons I did not flip the manifold.

 

1. There is very little room for the pipe between the alternator and hood. The hood on this car is custom so that's a problem. I could have flattened the pipe but that would look weird.

 

2. Access is also important to me. I will need access to the belt drive, and radiator fans to make adjustments because when you have that much power and your running the car hard pumps like to fail and belts like to break and I want to be able to examine the belt drives easily while the car is running. if I reverse the manifold I will cover the belt drive on the left side of the motor so to examine it I would have to pull the pipe.

 

3. Doing a reverse mount is hard because of vacuum points. I have done it before on my wagon and it was a pain having to tap and weld away holes because everything swaps around. All the vacuum ports on this manifold is all in one spot very helpful but if I flipped they would all be point the wrong way and you would see all of the lines making the engine look cluttered.

 

4. If you look at how the piping is ran you can see that it doesn't have to move around the stock sheet metal since I am making my own around the pipes. So with that the piping is considerably short (its even shorter then the piping I had on my reverse manifold setup on my wagon)

 

5. Lastly flow. as you can see there are only 2 pipes. So there are as few fail points as possible and this could be done with a reversed setup as well but when you think about how the pipe coming of the manifold would look there are a lot of 90deg bends that will slow flow and cause hot spots. My piping now is very smooth and the air will move fast through it.

 

With a reverse manifold and the location of my intercooler you would have to 45 off the throttle body then 90 to run parallel to the core support, 90 down to clear the headlight, 90 back to level out under the headlights and 180 to round into the intercooler.

 

I have way lest bents in there and you need to think of the piping not need to be shorter but have better flow. A short pipe with a crap tone of bents in it is going to be more restrictive then a pipe that's a little longer with less bends. By my calculations reversing the manifold would have shortened the pipe over my setup but only by 9" and with how many bends I would need it would not only be more restrictive, but also cost more to make.

 

I don't mean to come off angry but I have so many people ask my why because when they see fast cars they just associate a reversed manifold to be one it because its the norm. When trying to route around the stock metal yes is a better option and if you have custom intercooler cores that put the outlets in easier places for reversed yes. But for this build its more efficient to run the piping this way and more cost effective. I'll be running 40psi + through this thing so lots of bends makes heat, and heat at these levels is no good. I have spent a lot of time designing this car and I know many people would do things different ways. I just wanted to explain the motives for why I choose this setup.

 

Johann @ Girodisc

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There are a few reasons I did not flip the manifold.

 

Very nice post - I love seeing the reasoning behind why people choose to do what they do. :)

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hey giro disco,

i will write you a blank check if you install this on my subie and dont blow my motor after the dyno tune

 

 

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj145/T-3rdEye/huge_turbo_01-1.jpg

 

or this

 

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll149/rgonzalez1211/huge_turbo.jpg

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