LittleBlueGT Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well guys official measurements have been taken and solid works models have been started. I will keep you updated. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Guys please realise that these will be sold as a set only because they are engineered to work together as a system. So if anyone looking to get both please wait for us I promise it will be worth it. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Guys please realise that these will be sold as a set only because they are engineered to work together as a system. So if anyone looking to get both please wait for us I promise it will be worth it. M Looks like I might buy both and then sell my current lateral links. Why would one not be able to buy just the toe control links. I see no reason why they have to "match"? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Reasons why selling in pairs, - That is the way that we will be testing them. - We do not want other unknowns in the situation. - When changing geometries the loads on members become different or could cause them to creak. - Also this let's us guarentee our customers to be happy. - The links that we are making should also work when we design the new subframe. - Please just wait to see the design and some of th feature we are going to add especially regarding weather protection. -I do appreciate the questions though, keep them coming!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Reasons why selling in pairs, - That is the way that we will be testing them. - We do not want another unknowns in the situation. - When changing geometries the loads on members become different or could cause them to creak. - Also this let's us guarentee our customers to be happy. - The links that we are making should also work when we design the new subframe. - Please just wait to see the design and some of th feature we are going to add especially regarding weather protection. -I do appreciate the questions though, keep them coming!!! New rear subframe? Like TIC is making for the STIs? Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I'd be interested in adjustable endlinks that last and are quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 New rear subframe? Like TIC is making for the STIs? Possibly, it is on our radar. I mean i know that i want one Please guys please keep spreading the word about this product. We have a first round of CAD(Solid Works) Drawing out for preliminary bid. I will post a Solid Works shot as soon as we get them finalized. I count 8 People interested!!! I updated the first post!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Let people know was up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I hope you realize the market for this stuff is gonna be small, and your profit margin has to be big enough to make a go of it with limited customers. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Has been moved to the frist Post to keep it updated!!! Basically the more interest we get in certain fields helps us determine our order of development. Keep the Questions Coming!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Commit to what? I might be interested in endlinks, not subframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Im interested in subframe and toe arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Updated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 add me to the front lower arm and subframe list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I am not interested in toe and camber arms! END LINKS - yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggtnut Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 add me to the front/rear subfram lists too. Ben (2014 Outback SAP w/ eyesite, 2014 Tribeca Limited, 2006 LGT limited sedan) Subaru Ambassador PNW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camber Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Interested in the subframes... Will they have bushings or direct connect to the chassis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 I do not have many details on the subframe yet, but I would suspect that there would be some form of NVH deterant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Btw, what the subframes are supposed to address? I.e. what are trying to achieve/change in the suspension geometry/characteristics by these subframes? Looks like people jump on them, but I do not see any explanation why they would be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Btw, what the subframes are supposed to address? I.e. what are trying to achieve/change in the suspension geometry/characteristics by these subframes? Looks like people jump on them, but I do not see any explaination while they would be worthwhile. Likely better toe control (especially if lowered) on suspension compression. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 I am going to give a quick explanation of why someone would want a rear lower subframe. - When lowering the car it messes up the toe and camber curves (the Subaru original engineers did not design the rear suspension to be lowered so it helps that a lot) - So consumer can finetune there toe and camber curves depending on how much they lowered there car. - Will help prevent lift at maximum traction in the rear - This will lower the roll center of the car (help reduce body roll!!!) - Hopefully reduce about 5-10lbs (Realise this is sprung so it is not criticial, just a detail.) - Stiffen up the lower rear suspension (ie. no need for Cusco bracing) - Changes parts of the overall geometery of the suspension to better perform for a lowered vehicle. - Look Sweeeett!!! - There are probably some other benifits that we find The reason i do not expound on it more now is that it might change (we have not made or designed it yet!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I am going to give a quick explanation of why someone would want a rear lower subframe. - When lowering the car it messes up the toe and camber curves (the Subaru original engineers did not design the rear suspension to be lowered so it helps that a lot) - So consumer can finetune there toe and camber curves depending on how much they lowered there car. - Will help prevent lift at maximum traction in the rear - This will lower the roll center of the car (help reduce body roll!!!) - Hopefully reduce about 5-10lbs (Realise this is unsprung so it is not criticial, just a detail.) - Stiffen up the lower rear suspension (ie. no need for Cusco bracing) - Changes parts of the overall geometery of the suspension to better perform for a lowered vehicle. - Look Sweeeett!!! - There are probably some other benifits that we find The reason i do not expound on it more now is that it might change (we have not made or designed it yet!!!) FYI, changing the roll center does not reduce body roll, only springs and swaybars can do that. Altering the roll center will help reduce bumpsteer and increase corner stability while maintainig the right dynamic alignment angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 I think that we mean the same thing, but i did not word it the best. It helps the suspension have a geometrical advantage that it once did not have with respect to corning stability and AKA the car should be more planted ie help reduce the body roll effect. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 right, but it wont reduce the body roll effect, but rather create the proper body roll effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 True i will agree with that. I appreciate the questions though I am sure this helps clear it up for others. What is your thoughts on the subframe now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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