JohnnyGT08 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Offering an optional subwoofer, that does nothing for sound. NEVER ARGUE WITH A STUPID PERSON. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL, THEN BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_J Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I assume that we are talking stock Subaru vehicles here. Yes exactly...that's why I like to keep the exterior as stock as possible to not attract attention. Price is extremely competitive vs any other wagons on the market. Granted SOA cuts some corners but you can also customize later and get exactly what you want. Theives don't seem to like Subaru's much and tend to steal Toyotas and Hondas instead. Plus Subaru's are much harder to break-into vs Toyota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouar Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 To rouar if you are refering my post road test meaning motor trend, autoweek etc. If not sorry Not you. I'm saying that I will occasionally recommend people to test drive the car at a dealer, but they won't remotely consider the notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybige Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 hm, let's see. This is what makes a Subaru: telescoping steering wheel? please, that's the stupidest thing if you want to drive your car for reals and push it. Telescoping wheels are for posers cruising on the freeway with their automatic gearboxes and FWD cars; people that care more about their stereos than how fast they will go around the canyon in the rain. Respectfully disagree - any knowledgeable driver knows that seating/driving position is a key aspect towards performance driving (you know, two hands at all times at 3 & 9 oclock). For those of us who don't have the ideal combination in terms of arm/leg length ratio, telescoping steering wheels are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azca Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 yes, it works fine for an automatic car; people buy automatic cars to have 'luxury' in the 1st place Respectfully disagree - any knowledgeable driver knows that seating/driving position is a key aspect towards performance driving (you know, two hands at all times at 3 & 9 oclock). For those of us who don't have the ideal combination in terms of arm/leg length ratio, telescoping steering wheels are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach_six Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Their lame commercials...and lack of tilt steering wheel. I like to steer with my knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybige Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 yes, it works fine for an automatic car; people buy automatic cars to have 'luxury' in the 1st placeActually, I replaced an MT A4 for an auto LGT because I got tired of shifting in DC traffic. That said - it was a mistake, never should've gotten an auto However, that still doesn't change any of my thoughts regarding telescoping steering wheels. Manual or Auto, you should always keep two hands on the wheel as much as possible (no ghetto laid back stylez in my ride ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybige Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Their lame commercials...and lack of tilt steering wheel. I like to steer with my knees. Huh? My steering wheel tilts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I think he meant telescopic steering wheel? The kind that you can pull or push to adjust, that most people pull towards them as much as they can and then push their seat back to make it look like they're driving from the ******* backseat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z28dreams Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Actually, I replaced an MT A4 for an auto LGT because I got tired of shifting in DC traffic. That said - it was a mistake, never should've gotten an auto However, that still doesn't change any of my thoughts regarding telescoping steering wheels. Manual or Auto, you should always keep two hands on the wheel as much as possible (no ghetto laid back stylez in my ride ). I just went through the manual vs. automatic debate here in DC as well. I decided to go with the auto. 9 times out of 10 I'm glad I made this decision as I crawl through traffic. The other 1 time I'm kicking myself. What did you think of the change from A4 -> LGT? A4 was on my list of options when I purchased, but I couldn't get past the quality control issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlander Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 or maybe one that will tilt closer to level than ours, like the old GM "you too can be a bus driver" tilt action. Vir Est Fatum Ut Perficio Concepta Suus Progenies. - Man is destined to fulfill the capacity of his lineage (i.e. Darwinism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azca Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 if you drive a manual car like it should be driven, you will spend most of your time shifting and holding on. There is really no need to use both arms all the time - you are not driving an 18 wheeler Actually, I replaced an MT A4 for an auto LGT because I got tired of shifting in DC traffic. That said - it was a mistake, never should've gotten an auto However, that still doesn't change any of my thoughts regarding telescoping steering wheels. Manual or Auto, you should always keep two hands on the wheel as much as possible (no ghetto laid back stylez in my ride ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Not trusting 5MT drivers with the technical challenges of a Navigation, mp3 audio,HID,bluetooth. Lack of legroom fore and aft a plethora of wonderful smells in the cabin a democgraphic ranging from old folks to lesbians and teenagers wonderbread brakes, crappy tires, general mod-money spending, and NOT being able to open ur windows after rain.... ....and thumbs up and ugly looks from corvette, 3, 5, a4, a6......drivers is what makes a subaru a subaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouar Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I don't understand why people are complaining about features that were added in later years. Telescoping steering wheel and MP3 / aux jack to name a few - obviously added due to popular request. Maybe they are missing from your car but they are not completely missing from the Legacy line. Being a few years behind in features compared to competing vehicles is a very valid point, but the lack of a particular feature itself is not if the feature was added at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Telescopic steering wheel was already present in the 80's on Subaru, so it's not even new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I do love telescoping wheels would love if my car had it. I actually like being really close to the wheel like when you see the inside shot of a rally or racecar driver, but i have relatively long legs at 6 ft and agressive driving I am great but on the highway or going slow my leg gets tired of holding itself up for a long time when being light on the accelerator for example I sit with the wheel lower and the seat further up (tilt not telescoping) in our Dodge dakota truck than my father does and hes only 5'6 and has shorter legs than me... im on the right hes on the left (grandfather's in the middle if somebody's wondering) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/fiidgett/100_3377.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808LGT Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 it doesn't make sense how legacy owners can complain about technology not in their cars but in others and still own the car their complaining about! if you want those features so bad why did you buy a subaru in the first place? there is no excuse to it! you have the resources of the internet to know what your getting into! i personally love my car and the features it does have! anything extra after performance and safety, can be another distraction we don't need on the road! your car is first and foremost a means of transportation. it gets you from point a to point b. if your complaining about the things your car doesn't have! imagine not having a car! still complaining about things in your car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGG Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 It's about trade offs. We're willing to give up some features for good handling and a bulletproof AWD system. We are, however, Americans(mostly) and feel it's our right to bitch about everything:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTATV Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 im not bitching but i do think telescoping would be a nice addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanatech Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 the ability to drive its self out of a snow filled ditch... most of the time. reverse donuts on a sheet of ice. and being able to go from a stop in rain sleet or snow like its dry out (wonder if the usps has thought of this...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808LGT Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 for me coming from an 98 integra, the lgt is loaded with features, safety, space, and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGG Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 the ability to drive its self out of a snow filled ditch... most of the time. reverse donuts on a sheet of ice. and being able to go from a stop in rain sleet or snow like its dry out (wonder if the usps has thought of this...) Yes they have. The used to sell RHD postal version Legacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energizer gp Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 A telescoping steering wheel should be an option I guess....I personally think it would be like having the stereo control buttons on the steering wheel, good for some but useless to others and just a weak link in the steering system. Just my 2 cents....And yes, I do alot of wrenching on my own vehicles and do get the steering wheel and interior full of dirt from time to time....Drives the wife nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbone Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I think my engine cover is indicating where the diff dipstick is on the wrong side. It says it's on the left, but it's on the right. Or have I been missing a dipstick all this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underpowerd Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 ^atf on d/s, diff on p/s...you probably have the short dinky diff dipstick like me i forgot all about the windows after the rain; nothing like a cold earful that first rht after you've just trooped through a long gray day -- some decent galleys would have been a treat rather than the design that funnels it right in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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