05GT Guru Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 wow i didnt expect that, a fully loaded 02 SS was just over 32k i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Well Chevy certainly priced the Camaro very aggressively... $22,995 for 300 hp 3.6L V6 LS $30,995 for 422 hp 6.2L LS3 SS http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/13/2010-chevrolet-camaro-priced-ls-22-995-ss-30-995/ 2010 Mustang better not be coming to this gun fight with a knife. 210 HP from a 4.0L that gets poor gas mileage. Ford had better do something and quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 210 HP from a 4.0L that gets poor gas mileage. Ford had better do something and quick. I dont know man, mustangs have always gotten less mpg made less hp and IMO looked way uglier and they still sell like hot cakes lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I dont know man, mustangs have always gotten less mpg made less hp and IMO looked way uglier and they still sell like hot cakes lol. Cause the base model is cheap. My dad almost got a brand new one in 2000 for us kids, then I learned that they were RWD (I was 14 at the time) and two years later I was driving our beloved '96 LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 In 2002 the base model v6 firebird and 02 v6 stang were both 17,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Yeah then they stopped making Firebirds and Camaros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Yeah because like i said the mustang was raping them in sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboa113 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 just saw today on the chevy website tht they've started taking orders as of 10/13 on the new camaro. I'm surprised its going to make it into production... but excited. "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Pen Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Yeah because like i said the mustang was raping them in sales. mostly due to girls and 16 year old tough guys... mustangs have always been a chick car in my opinion.. most peoples moms want a mustang convertable thats there dream car.. and its slow.. i havnt liked a mustang since they stopped putting the 5.0 liter in them... since then they have just gotten slower... kudos to chevy for upping the camaro to make their low end v6 put the same hp numbers as a ford "high end" v8 slowstang gt. also ive read the dimensions of the new camaro are supposed to be smaller and shorter than the new challengers are... unlike the boat that is the modern mustang and charger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Oh there was a guy in my high school who had a brand new 2002 base Mustang with an automatic transmission who thought he was just the hottest thing. We still give him crap to this day. What guy chooses a Mustang as their car of choice and with a manual transmission. It might as well be a Jetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 mostly due to girls and 16 year old tough guys... mustangs have always been a chick car in my opinion.. most peoples moms want a mustang convertable thats there dream car.. and its slow.. i havnt liked a mustang since they stopped putting the 5.0 liter in them... since then they have just gotten slower... kudos to chevy for upping the camaro to make their low end v6 put the same hp numbers as a ford "high end" v8 slowstang gt. also ive read the dimensions of the new camaro are supposed to be smaller and shorter than the new challengers are... unlike the boat that is the modern mustang and charger I agree, except high end stang would be the cobra and in 03/04 they got it right wtih the 420hp 4.6 supercharged. And the 03 Mach 1 wast too bad either. But pretty much every other versions suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ford GT is for da men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Yeah tiny men, have you ever sat in one. Tiny cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestar Pilot Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Well Chevy certainly priced the Camaro very aggressively... $22,995 for 300 hp 3.6L V6 LS $30,995 for 422 hp 6.2L LS3 SS http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/13/2010-chevrolet-camaro-priced-ls-22-995-ss-30-995/ 2010 Mustang better not be coming to this gun fight with a knife. 22,995 + options is going to make the V6 Camaro the same price as a Mustang GT, around $26-28,000. So no real benefit there to the V6 Camaro other than brand preference. You get into the mid 30's with the LS3 Camaro, and I'm sure there are some SVT Mustang options out there to compete with it. I'm not a Ford guy, but I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 The only thing that could compete with the camaro is the rousch stage 3 and the GT500. the GT500 is 50+ and the rousch stage 3 which is a mustang GT plus 21,000 dollars. So no the mustang doesnt really have good competition for that price range. The new sallen is 620hp but its also 71,000 dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 22,995 + options is going to make the V6 Camaro the same price as a Mustang GT, around $26-28,000. So no real benefit there to the V6 Camaro other than brand preference. I don't understand why people make this argument. You should compare base price to base price not a loaded V6 Camaro vs a base Mustang GT. I mean you can option a Mustang GT close to $40k too... You get into the mid 30's with the LS3 Camaro, and I'm sure there are some SVT Mustang options out there to compete with it. I'm not a Ford guy, but I'm just saying... There is no SVT Mustang, the Shelby Mustang GT500 is the next step up from the Mustang GT and it starts at ~$45k. There were some limited production Mustangs in between the GT and GT500 such as the Bullitt and Shelby GT-H. But those are not part of regular production so you can't just order one once they sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalleeharvey Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I disagree. I like the SN95 Mustangs. They make nice cruisers and can sound pretty sweet. Oh there was a guy in my high school who had a brand new 2002 base Mustang with an automatic transmission who thought he was just the hottest thing. We still give him crap to this day. What guy chooses a Mustang as their car of choice and with a manual transmission. It might as well be a Jetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 The only thing that could compete with the camaro is the rousch stage 3 and the GT500. the GT500 is 50+ and the rousch stage 3 which is a mustang GT plus 21,000 dollars. So no the mustang doesnt really have good competition for that price range. The new sallen is 620hp but its also 71,000 dollars Isn't there a Shelby GT option? Basically a Mustang GT, with some shelby stripes, and some FRPP options installed... Similar spec to the newest re-hashing of the Hertz Shelbys... But well under the GT500? There is a Mustang official or aftermarket version for every day of the year, otherwise... I would think there would be something in the mid-$30k range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Pen Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Oh there was a guy in my high school who had a brand new 2002 base Mustang with an automatic transmission who thought he was just the hottest thing. We still give him crap to this day. What guy chooses a Mustang as their car of choice and with a manual transmission. It might as well be a Jetta. exactly Guru: true i forgot about the mach 1 and the cobra.. ive been for a ride in an 03 cobra and they are nice... and the saleen mustangs are always fun my friends father owns one and i rip on him and tell him its his mid life crisis car... iwannasportsedan: yes i do believe there is a "shelby" mustang thats not the gt500 or at least a package you can buy from the dealership that gives you the bigger lights up front and some pinstripes or something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenc544 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Isn't there a Shelby GT option? Basically a Mustang GT, with some shelby stripes, and some FRPP options installed... Similar spec to the newest re-hashing of the Hertz Shelbys... But well under the GT500? Are you talking about the Shelby GT-C? It's got the same 319 hp engine as the GT-H and goes for ~$49k. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0804_2008_shelby_gt_c/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yes there is a shelby gt option, but other than looks it makes about 15more hp than a stock GT and costs 40k i believe. I was talking about new mustangs that would be able to perform like the new camaro, the camaro weighs what 3700 with 422hp, the roush stage 3 is 3700lbs with 425hp since the stage 3 is supercharged but like i said its the 25k for a mustang gt plus 21k for the stage 3 package for a 46k car(assuming you have no options in your stock GT). And the gt500 makes 500hp but it weight 4200lbs and costs 50k, so both the stage 3 roush and gt500 will probably perform close to the new SS but both cost way more is the point i was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Pen Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 i cant believe i am falling in love with a bowtie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yeah well, im hoping to fall in love with the new Trans Am if they bring it out. Im sorry but in my eyes after 1969 the Trans Am has always looked better than the camaro. 67,68 and 69 the camaro won hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Pen Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 im not the only one ive always been a little ashamed of this but one of my favorite all time cars is the trans am in billy madison.. the black one with the t tops and the big gold firebird on the front.. haha classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yeah that was a late 70s, the early 70s were nice aswell. The 80s and early 90s kinda sucked, but american cars throughout those years all kinda did lol. I mean GM was putting a 305 v8 in the T/As and camaros that only made 170hp, a v8 making 170hp is horrible. But 93-02 were awesome years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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