05GT Guru Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Two naturally aspirated liters are going to make 220 hp? Is that remarkable or have I not been paying attention for a while? Civic mugen is a 2.0 that makes 237hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Threads merged and located to the Rumors forum. Please continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 i think Hyundai already beat them to the punch... looks like the new genesis Genesis is much, much bigger. 15% bigger, if the prelim specs are to be believed. Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheerio Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 genesis engine is similar to the new Evo X motor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX35B4 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Here is latest info. Concept FT86. http://www.carview.co.jp/tms/2009/preview_car/toyota_ft86_concept/default.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/01-toyota-ft-86-concept-press.jpg Info here too : http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/06/toyko-2009-preview-toyota-ft-86-concept-brings-back-the-hachiro/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 That's got tons of potential. I think there's going to be a bigger bumper beam running behind the license plate, but still... I'm very optimistic about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issai Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Fascinating. Hopefully the execs will move forward with this car before they cock-block the development process again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viber Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 This could be a fun little car... Though, I would like to see a turbo charged DSG-type tranny model. With 250lbs/250HP it would be a screamer. If it comes as well featured as a Mazda3, the BMW 135 would get a swift kick in the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christurismohk Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Looking good! http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/002_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/009_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/005_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/003_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/008_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/007_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/016_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/018_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/013_o.jpg http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo85/doctorno_/020_o.jpg October 6, 2009 - 12:30 am ET TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp. goes sporty at this months' Tokyo Motor Show, unveiling its vision for a sport coupe being jointly developed with Subaru. Subscribe to Automotive News The Toyota-badged car, dubbed the FT-86 Concept, is the spiritual successor to the AE86 sport coupe of the 1980s, which was based on the Corolla. Like its boxy predecessor, the FT-86 Concept is compact, lightweight and has a low center of gravity. But the styling is modernized with a rounded, sleek silhouette. The FT-86 is Toyota's concept for a sporty coupe being undertaken with Fuji Heavy Industries Inc., the company that manufactures Subaru vehicles. While it is fitted with a 2.0-liter boxer engine from Subaru, the overall design was created by Toyota's ED2 styling studio in France. Even the blue-red metallic paint was specially developed by Toyota. “Sports cars have to be red, but we wanted a new red,†said chief engineer Tetsuya Tada. “So we came up with shoujyouhi red, the traditional red color of a Japanese monkey's [backside].†Toyota and Fuji Heavy plan to start producing a sporty car in late 2011. Toyota will be responsible for most of the engineering. Fuji Heavy will supply the horizontally opposed engine and manufacture the car at a Subaru plant. image ENLARGE The FT-86 seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the car a lower center of gravity. Fuji Heavy won't comment on whether the FT-86 Concept is that car or not; Subaru won't be displaying a sports car at the Oct. 24-Nov. 4 Tokyo Motor Show. But the car clearly underscores new President Akio Toyoda's push for more muscular, fun-to-drive models. Tada said Toyota wants the FT-86's sticker price to be in the $20,000 range. “It won't sell if it's over 3 million yen ($30,000),†he said. “The price has to appeal to regular customers.†The car seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the FT-86 a lower center of gravity. Key to the design was maximizing fuel efficiency by reducing weight and creating a compact design, Tada said. Tada also said it gets a dedicated chassis, noting that enthusiasts don't want a shared platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 As cool as that might be, I still want to see a Subaru-branded AWD version. Looks like they might have to pull the front wheels a few inches rearward to make the drivetrain work, but I hope it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawl Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 dash reminds me of my s2000... car for sale. PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 WOW! Give me an STI version from Subaru and I'm sold. It's 10.2" shorter, 1.41" narrower, 8.49" lower, and only gives up 2.12" of wheelbase compared to an STI [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 My next car. And you can tell that Subaru didnt design it because its not ugly. WR blue that ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atc5 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 interesting genesis coupe-like styling and competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustangendsley Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 sory it has already been done. it is called the 2010 legacy gt. hi subaru meet the toyota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoopMan Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 My next car. And you can tell that Subaru didnt design it because its not ugly. WR blue that ish. The 'alternate lifestyle' hairy birkinstock women will still have their Outbacks and Foresters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 wow Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If they throw a turbo in this car, it will have a nice warm spot next to my spec.B in the garage, whether it is badged a Subuaru or now. It is nice to see a real sports car - you know one that emphasizes a small, lightweight, nimble chassis over rediculous power, heavy shared chassis, traction control, and other electronics that dillute most modern 'performance' vehicles. Jinba Attai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 More pics http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/toyota-ft-86-concept#2 http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/10/toyota-ft-86-first-official-photos-of.html video [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oOXdKcdpZ8&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - ä¼èª¬ã®ã€Œ86ã€å¾©æ´»ï¼æ±äº¬ãƒ¢ãƒ¼ã‚¿ãƒ¼ã‚·ãƒ§ãƒ¼ FT-86 コンセプト (トヨタ)[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithAkaMrak Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It is nice to see a real sports car - you know one that emphasizes a small, lightweight, nimble chassis over rediculous power, heavy shared chassis, traction control, and other electronics that dillute most modern 'performance' vehicles. Jinba Attai!Have they said that it won't have traction control, stability control, etc.? It looks like stability control is standard on every car Toyota and Subaru sell today (at least in the U.S.), from the Yaris to the STI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Ok, well maybe I am being optimistic. I did forget that Toyota has stability and traction control that is not fully defeatable except for on the IS-F. Fortunately, VDC can be switched off on Subarus but who knows. I really wanted to focus on the fact that they are keeping it light and hopefully without any of those luxury features which weight the car down and over-complicate things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Maybe AVO should start working on a turbo kit for this car.... ....just sayin'. Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardP Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If there is a good-looking Subaru AWD version it might bring me back into the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If they throw a turbo in this car, it will have a nice warm spot next to my spec.B in the garage, whether it is badged a Subuaru or now. It is nice to see a real sports car - you know one that emphasizes a small, lightweight, nimble chassis over rediculous power, heavy shared chassis, traction control, and other electronics that dillute most modern 'performance' vehicles. Jinba Attai! +1 turbo 2.5L would make that thing move nicely. And id definatly prefer AWD if possible maybe theyll put that stuff in the top of the line model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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