Garandman Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Still have stock tires? What pressure front and rear? With the VTD system you should have minimal understeer or neutral depending how happy your feet are.... Who Dares Wins スバル Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Tires are great an all, but will do nothing to address the excessive body motions that the OP complained of. Since he's coming from an M3, I'd suggest upgrading to coilovers. From a more Germanic feel and a good ride you can't do much better than the KW V2's. I believe that a previous poster also mention the Megan Racing coilovers and those would definately up the handling ante signifigantly at a very resonable price. Couple the coilovers with a nice set of sway bars and you'll forget all about the M3. BTW, as most people here already know, I am both a KW and Megan Racing dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 So what's the diff. b/n JDM GT and JDM Spec B bilsteins in terms of perfomance? JDM GT = more comfort JDM SpecB = more performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 I drove the Spec B and in my opinion its only marginally better. I found it floaty with plenty of nose lift under power and body roll was atrocious. Spec B has a big advantage with great struts but I think the springs are lame. What exactly are those springs? Are those STi Pinks? Anyone running aftermarket springs on their Spec B with stock dampers? Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 No, the springs are something mushy and USDM-specific. Different than JDM GT Rev.C which has the same struts but somewhat stiffer springs. Yes, many people JDM GT dampers with aftermarket springs and are quite happy, although majority of them has JDM GT Rev. A dampers - stiffer than Rev.C. Also some discriminating drivers, like Max Rebo upgrade the dampers in the USDM SpecB sedan to "real" JDM SpecB dampers - much more aggresively damped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 So what exactly are the USDM Spec B springs? Not STi Pinks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 So what exactly are the USDM Spec B springs? Not STi Pinks right? No! These are some crapola cushy wires. Different than USDM GT, different than JDM GT (at least these from 2006 USDM). Pinks are marketed by STI - official Subaru Japan aftermarket branch - and cost new ~$400. Officially not sold by SOA/SPT in the US for LGT at least. All are imports from Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 JDM GT = more comfort JDM SpecB = more performance But, a few days ago in another thread: I recently learned that Pinks have the same rates regardless whether GT or SpecB. The differences are in LENGTHS to compesate for difference in weights between GT and SpecB - primarily differencs in the transmission (6MT vs 5MT; also note different Pinks for AT). So you're saying the difference in length makes a difference in comfort and performance? Do you happen to know what the lengths are? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 from an E46 M3 to a GT? that's a big price difference too! Time to get some wider tires and wheels and get some Zeals Coilovers or Ohlins Coilovers.. then it will feel better like the M3, just not as powerful. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 Actually the power is the one thing I'm happy with. I'm not expecting M3 handling - just something alot tighter. I'm leaning toward a rear sway and a set of IONs. My struts only have 3K on them, I see no reason to toss them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 But, a few days ago in another thread: So you're saying the difference in length makes a difference in comfort and performance? Do you happen to know what the lengths are? Thanks! The first quote is about DAMPERS. The second is about SPRINGS (Pinks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Actually the power is the one thing I'm happy with. I'm not expecting M3 handling - just something alot tighter. I'm leaning toward a rear sway and a set of IONs. My struts only have 3K on them, I see no reason to toss them. I didnt even really have 3000 miles on my stock shocks and I switch them out. I didnt even wait for 200 miles and I already mounted a set of tires and wheels.. and I surely didnt wait on the sways and minor bushings as well. then again, I did all of that with the help of sponsors in a matter of 1 month after the release date of the GT back in June of 2005 Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 Trust me I'm not shy about burning money on cars. The Subaru was supposed to be therapy after the M3. Problem is I see potential. I should have gotten a car with NO potential! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Don't whine. You should have known what you were buying. Be happy because: (1) you can upgrade it fairly inexpensively, (2) you got good advice here. Suspension is one of the easiest upgrades to do. From start to end, it's 1:30 h to swap suspension on our cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Trust me I'm not shy about burning money on cars. The Subaru was supposed to be therapy after the M3. Problem is I see potential. I should have gotten a car with NO potential! that's why I didnt buy an STi or the M3, or even a Porsche.. heck I even turned down a Scion tC and Mini Cooper.. there's just too much aftermarket support that gets everyone tempting to burn that money.. btw, you can burn that money my way if you like.. I can tell you how to really make the GT handle probably better than the M3, just need cash Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 Don't get me wrong - I like the car alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 understood, we just all have to keep it real Legacy isnt a POS and it's certainly nothing ultra stellar without some work.. but it's just like any other car out there with a lot of potential Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 lot of potential And a potential easily reachable. Better struts/springs or coilovers plus sway bar(s) do truly wonders to car's handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 I drove it alot this weekend. Just curious - does anyone else find 2nd gear to be a bit flat on torque? 3rd picks up pretty nicely, but I just can't seem to get the punch out of 2nd like I do 1st and 3rd. Maybe I'm just having transition issues. You werent supposed to shift the M3 until you hit readline, which was over 1K higher than the Legacy. I find myself wanting more out of 1st gear and dreading 2nd. Its wierd. The Legacy is definately fast - I just can't seem to consistently tap the power. Maybe its the Turbo delivering inconsistently in 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Do you have an auto or stick? On LGT the power peaks before redline. I thinks it's like 5800 rpms. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 5 spd. I had to drive 100 miles to NH get one - automatics are everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 5 spd. I had to drive 100 miles to NH get one - automatics are everywhere!I did the same thing. I drove 120mi from Los angeles to El cajon in rush hour to get the last '05 5mt LGT wagon. You could pick up a V.1 Ap for about $400 and less then that when the V.2 finally gets here. It makes the car alot more fun. I'm going stage 2 soon as I get my parts put on. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddMcF2002 Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 Well I got my first kill tonight. With my l33t skillz I was able to take an Expedition somewhere in second gear! Oh boy it was close! What can I say I am a street racer, living a 1/4 mile at a time and all that stuff. It was pretty funny though - hearing that 5.4L rolling condo punch it Well besides telling you all about my astonishing driving skillz I wanted to elaborate on that second gear being "flat" thing. During this nailbiter of a race the "flat" gear moved on me - now 3rd gear was flat - it felt like the turbo wouldnt engage - and in fact I think it didnt. Is that possible? Is the ECU messing up or is that something its expected to do? When I mean "flat" it was really obvious, barely any torque at all. I thought the condo on wheels was going to catch up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 posting kill stories is asking for a ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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