SLegacy99 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 they suck but who else offer's a turbocharged AWD sedan that is affordable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I wish there was a 'not yet' I'm only a year and a half into owning my car (well chase finance owning my car lol) I have put a lot into little things and customizing my car to make it 'mine' so I dont plan on getting a different car anytime soon. However 2 years down the road we'll have to see A> if im pulling in more cash and B> what the next generation wrx really looks like and if they are waiting till the 08 model year to bring the refreshed legacy to the US, i doubt they are going to only do it for a year so that means a new legacy in 09 at the earliest... That being said in a few years I may be going to an Audi or BMW dealership. However if the next redesigned legacy looks promising I may hold out and be a subie owner again.. But so far 15k and no problems except for when a rock hit my compressor and Gerald covered that under warranty.. If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcgliss Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I'm a Subaru customer only if ALL Legacy GT models come with a manual (MT). We have an '05 LGT wagon 5MT and '00 LGT wagon 5MT, so clearly we would be shopping for replacement of the older one in '07 or '08. JC, Chicagoland bassist & opentracker 2005 LGT 5MT Ltd wagon 2005 LGT 5MT Ltd sedan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 they suck but who else offer's a turbocharged AWD sedan that is affordable? This is EXACTLY what I am thinking... I like the legacy more than just about any other four-door out there, for it's content and value. Availability and configurability are the big strikes against, which are both endemic to the SOA bureaucracy, not the car's limitations. but I can't buy a car if I can't find a car, which is even more fundamental than whether it is a configuration that I want or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I might want to find something with better gas economy or that uses alternate fuel... But I prefere shopping for used Subarus anyway so I dont really apply to this thread. But I have to say, there are some extremely picky people on this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yes if they option recaros No if they continue to install yugo seats The rest I can deal with one issue at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jond_68 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I will be buying a subaru for my next car. I am currently on Subaru #8 and I have had only minor complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm1835 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 We really like our current LGT Wagon, but then we have the manual transmission and so will our next car, wagon or truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Things attracted me to Subaru: 1. Wagons rule--it is the only car company that specializes in wagons, 3 sizes and all always available. The cargo carrying features are the best in the biz. 2. Manuals not treated as red-headed stepchildren. As of '05, I believe 20% of sales were manual shifts. This may be being reduced as manuals are discontinued in more and more models. 3. Best AWD in the business. Effective, efficient and transparent. 4. Safety--I know I didn't used to care about it, but people do dumb things and I really don't want to be killed or maimed on the highway if I can help it. 5. Handling--Subies do handle well, all of them. 6. Features--Subaru doesn't play the extended options list game. This was once an exclusively big 3 ploy (base price $17,000, delivered $32,000), but now is common at all mfrs. Subies come nicely equipped at the base level. I see Subaru backing away from manuals. This irks me, and may actually make me shop for my next car, instead of just walking back into Pilgrim Subaru and saying "I want that one". I don't think it will be enough to keep me away, but one never knows, do one?? P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I see Subaru backing away from manuals. This irks me, and may actually make me shop for my next car, instead of just walking back into Pilgrim Subaru and saying "I want that one". I don't think it will be enough to keep me away, but one never knows, do one?? P. Which suprises me because they were offering so many. If I wanted an auto Id buy a Dodge or if I had the cash a Mercedes. I dont want Subaru to have crappy choices like Lexus. The Lexus IS only comes in the following combinations: MT RWD 2.5L AT AWD 2.5L AT RWD 3.5L Now my dad wanted power, AWD, and a stick shift. 204 hp, would be a considerble downgrade from his spirited A6 and Aurora before that. Hence the 330xi offered 255 hp, AWD and a 6 speed gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I will always own at least 1 Subie at all times because I love them. No way would I leave Subaru after realizing what great cars they are JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I will always own at least 1 Subie at all times because I love them. No way would I leave Subaru after realizing what great cars they are Youre right there. Safe, economical, reliable (for the most part), and they dont rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 if they were smart they would put thier hybrid turbo into production. i would buy a car that gets 42mpg, 0-60 in 6 sec.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 if they were smart they would put thier hybrid turbo into production. i would buy a car that gets 42mpg, 0-60 in 6 sec.. The TPH was canceled at the beginning of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The TPH was canceled at the beginning of the year. I dont recall this ever being confirmed. And really if you think about it, it makes no sense. Subaru does turbo and Subaru is now affiliated with Toyota, the world leader in hybrid technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I dont recall this ever being confirmed. Well consider this confirmation then. But because the TPH canceled does not mean they are not still working on a hybrid... Which they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Well consider this confirmation then. But because the TPH canceled does not mean they are not still working on a hybrid... Which they are. Whats your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Things attracted me to Subaru: 1. Wagons rule--it is the only car company that specializes in wagons, 3 sizes and all always available. The cargo carrying features are the best in the biz. 2. Manuals not treated as red-headed stepchildren. As of '05, I believe 20% of sales were manual shifts. This may be being reduced as manuals are discontinued in more and more models. 3. Best AWD in the business. Effective, efficient and transparent. 4. Safety--I know I didn't used to care about it, but people do dumb things and I really don't want to be killed or maimed on the highway if I can help it. 5. Handling--Subies do handle well, all of them. 6. Features--Subaru doesn't play the extended options list game. This was once an exclusively big 3 ploy (base price $17,000, delivered $32,000), but now is common at all mfrs. Subies come nicely equipped at the base level. I see Subaru backing away from manuals. This irks me, and may actually make me shop for my next car, instead of just walking back into Pilgrim Subaru and saying "I want that one". I don't think it will be enough to keep me away, but one never knows, do one?? P. 1. Have you ever heard about VW, Audi, BMW or Mercedes. They always offered wagons. 2. It might have been true but I think that BMW has manual transmission the most proliferated nowadays. 3. I would call it good not best. Effective, efficient and NOT transparent. I can kick my rear end loose with liberal power application when making turn. 4. Bundling features is nice if you want all of them. I love to have choices. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unobtainium Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 sebberry: Thank god... I would take a high-output turbo diesel over a hybrid anyday... +1. Hybrid = kludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 "1. Have you ever heard about VW, Audi, BMW or Mercedes. They always offered wagons." Mercedes is out of my price range, Audi is too. VW and Audi are not known for reliability. Anectodally, every Audi owner I've ever known ends up driving rental cars a big portion of the time. All are ridiculously expensive to maintain. Now BMW offers "free" service, but that has a time limit. My best friend called his Beemer his $700 car. Every time it went in for anything at all, no matter how minor, the bill was $700. Screw that crap. A car is a tool. You want to enjoy it, but I've got a life, a house, a family, hobbies, a full-time job and a part-time job. Some people like the hardship of owning a "special" vehicle. Not me. If I did I'd be driving something truly cool like a Jensen Interceptor or a Porsche Speedster. "3. I would call it good not best. Effective, efficient and NOT transparent. I can kick my rear end loose with liberal power application when making turn." That's a bad thing, exactly why?? P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atouk Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm brand new to Subaru, but I don't doubt that their cars will stay high on my list even of cost is no option (wishful thinking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Whats your source? FHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 FHI Show me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 "3. I would call it good not best. Effective, efficient and NOT transparent. I can kick my rear end loose with liberal power application when making turn." That's a bad thing, exactly why?? Not a bad thing. I was making a point that it is not transparent. It is there and it lets you know. 1. Wagons rule--it is the only car company that specializes in wagons, 3 sizes and all always available. The cargo carrying features are the best in the biz. I am not claiming that VW, Audi, MB or BMW are better but they are making Subaru not only company that specializes in wagons. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Show me. PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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