TedNacious Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I guess either... A: Just testing an H6 Sedan variant B: Testing the next generation Impreza powerplant....hidden in a Legacy platform to confuse.... B is a smart idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I still go with the fact that it's a test vehicle for an invisable exhaust... Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_templer_102 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 In Automobile, they said the new Legacy has a 2.5 L making 243 (adjusted) and a 3.0 (it said turboed) making 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 In Automobile, they said the new Legacy has a 2.5 L making 243 (adjusted) and a 3.0 (it said turboed) making 250. Proof, if any were needed, that automotive journalists are at the bottom of the intellectual pile. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Pimp Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Maybe its a turbo.......diesel. As in the one they are trying to get to Europe soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Paul offered some insight over at NASIOC's news and rumors forums: Well, turbocharged diesel is possible. But my wager is on it being a testing mule for the next WRX. Two reasons, the first being the hood scoop - the current hood scoop on the Legacy works quite well within the aerodynamics of the cars front. Putting that large of a hoodscoop on a Legacy would not improve cooling efficiency, and it would almost certainly hurt aerodynamics. Which would hurt the gas mileage. The second being the lack of a visible exhaust - giveaway that it's a shorter design than that car, which it would be if it was a next generation wrx exhaust system. Cheers, Paul Hansen www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 In Automobile, they said the new Legacy has a 2.5 L making 243 (adjusted) and a 3.0 (it said turboed) making 250. And that differs from what legacys have now in what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 It doesn't. That's why it was questioned about auto writers intelligence. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Either hiding an Impreza powerplant like it was mentioned before or else wasn't Subaru doing a Legacy hybrid in Japan? -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0WNxSH1FT Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I dont think its a Hybrid b/c they have to develop there own system (yea i know the concept car had one) but they were going to just drop in a Toyota set up and then realized it wouldnt work with the F4/AWD layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 uhh...the 3.0 is NA for $400 dollars Alex. So, the turboed 6-cylinder doesnt make any more horsepower? Ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I love rumors. Yeah. 3.6L H6 in the Legacy maybe. With a turbo, now way. We often talk about the H6TT, but it will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I dont think its a Hybrid b/c they have to develop there own system (yea i know the concept car had one) but they were going to just drop in a Toyota set up and then realized it wouldnt work with the F4/AWD layout. Thats interesting. I still exactly understand how the AWD works in an RX400h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum761 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think it's possible that they're testing the TPH system on that legacy. Isn't the TPH system suppost to come out for the Forester and Legacy in 08MY?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I thought TPH was dead for now. I'm going with the idea they're testing a cooling package for a new turbo engine, whether it be a turbo-diesel, or an H6. The additional weight is needed to represent a car at GVW for full cooling test/engine load conditions. That's my take on it. Whatever it is, it'll be interesting to see if something different/new comes out for MY08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I like the bald eagle plate up front And whats up with the gaggle of suubies behind it? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think it's possible that they're testing the TPH system on that legacy. Isn't the TPH system suppost to come out for the Forester and Legacy in 08MY?? TPH is 100% canceled and there wont be a hybrid until at least 2010... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum761 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Can anyone speculate what that metal piece in the hood scoop is? Part of the intercooler, strut brace?? If you look closely at the picutre of the hood scoop, it looks like they pretty much tapped on the bigger hood scoop. DUCT TAPE RULES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atouk Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 And whats up with the gaggle of suubies behind it? I think the gaggle is where the real test car is and the goofy leggy is just there as a distraction (which has clearly worked) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I think the gaggle is where the real test car is and the goofy leggy is just there as a distraction (which has clearly worked) I think he may just be right. SOA's known to be practical jokers (beer can in a bumper type folks:p) and this could be the next one. I bet they're all sitting around one big screen at SOA's R&D area laughing their arses off at us. You never know with these guys... no really... you NEVER know what they'll do. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 So, the turboed 6-cylinder doesnt make any more horsepower? Ya... First question: What turboed 6-cylinder? Second question: ...any more horsepower than what? If you know of any turboed 6-cylinders other than the prototype in the B11S or Jeff Perrins turbo H6 shoe-horned into his STI, spill the beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 First question: What turboed 6-cylinder? Second question: ...any more horsepower than what? If you know of any turboed 6-cylinders other than the prototype in the B11S or Jeff Perrins turbo H6 shoe-horned into his STI, spill the beans. That comment was only a response to this post: In Automobile, they said the new Legacy has a 2.5 L making 243 (adjusted) and a 3.0 (it said turboed) making 250. The only thing I've "heard" anything about in terms of new motors coming soon is the 3.6 H6 for the 08 Tribecca... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 That comment was only a response to this post: Oh, got it. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 The only thing I've "heard" anything about in terms of new motors coming soon is the 3.6 H6 for the 08 Tribecca... Regarding that 3.6L H6, I posted some comments over on Nabisco related to it. I don't see the 3.6L as being very likely, as it wouldn't use parts from any engine they have right now. Subaru already removed the 2.0 from the WRX and made it a 2.5 to bring it in line with all their other vehicles in the American market, so, from a standardization standpoint, there's no justification for a 3.6, especially if the rumor states that it's only for the Tribeca. It's highly unlikely that they would have a 3.0 in the Outback and a 3.6 in the Tribeca - tooling and production costs couldn't be spread out over enough vehicles to make it cost-effective. A more likely scenario would be to offer the 3.6L in the Tribeca, Outback, and possibly the Legacy, but we're still talking about a whole new engine, using no existing parts. What I see as much more likely is to turbocharge the existing 3.0 H6 for the Tribeca. We've heard rumors to that effect, and heard rumors of it not coming here because of emissions problems, but, if the emissions comments are based in fact, that says they really are working on a turbo 3.0. Emissions hurdles can be overcome. If they're still working on the turbo 3.0, that makes it even more unlikely they're working on a 3.6. If they could amortize their development costs over a much larger sales base, I could see them developing both engines, but not at their current sales levels. Turbocharging the 3.0 makes sense because they can use the same pistons, connecting rods and crankshaft (and more) from existing motors. They still sell the 2.0 (NA and turbo) in other countries - just take those 2.0 turbo parts and put them in the 3.0 - voila, a turbo H6! Yes, I know it's not as simple as that, but at least there are production parts to work with - for a 3.6, it would have to all-new. My bets are on seeing a turbo 3.0 for at least the Tribeca, and hopefully for the Outback and Legacy. I think the 3.6 rumor was just a distraction to take our attention away from the 3.0 development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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